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Post by corona on Apr 5, 2006 21:28:50 GMT 1
Currently there is no build of 0.4 that doesnt use the ME and therefore, there is no version that can be tested on 2.x firmware.
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Post by betatester on Apr 6, 2006 0:50:04 GMT 1
i dont think running an emu at 333mhz or/and the media engine will decrease the battery power THAT much, what really kills the battery is spinning and reading the umd....
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Post by corona on Apr 6, 2006 3:40:42 GMT 1
I dunno about you, but Ive never known TYL to run UMDs in my experience.
TYL just drains batt. by running the processor and ME. Thats about it.
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Post by f34r on Apr 6, 2006 11:11:22 GMT 1
The battery drain using the beta doesnt really kill my battery all that fast. I'll be doing a battery test later on today and I'll post those results.
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Post by laxer3a on Apr 6, 2006 18:30:15 GMT 1
Theoretically I would say that it should be -20% between the 0.2c and the prototype version with full ME in the same condition (screen light and sound volume). Screen + Lighting consume around 30% of battery life. 70 % remain for various stuff : 2 equiv cpu + 1 gpu + memory stick access and drain with audio speaker + LED... So lets say that ME is 25% to 30% out of the remaining 70%... you probably got your number :-) Let's see if reality matches it  |
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Post by oojesusoo on Apr 7, 2006 22:37:39 GMT 1
ok 4get the whole media engine thing 4 now
release a lite version without it
a few frames per second never hurt ne1
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Post by freakanaya on Apr 8, 2006 2:03:52 GMT 1
few? have u seen the difference between the ME version and the regular version for 0.3?
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Post by betatester on Apr 8, 2006 15:20:34 GMT 1
I dunno about you, but Ive never known TYL to run UMDs in my experience. TYL just drains batt. by running the processor and ME. Thats about it. lol i never said that umd was being read while playing snestyl, i was pointing out you lose more batt power playing a umd then you would not using it. |
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Post by decker on Apr 8, 2006 17:46:28 GMT 1
Keep up the good work on the emulator guys! For me it's not about network compatibility as much as just enjoying what I did as a kid on the move! Work in a call centre...weekends are slow. Would be nice to have the PSP here to help me along!  |
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Post by pkmaximum on Apr 8, 2006 18:00:29 GMT 1
Hey guys new to these forums but you will find me on many other forums. I have to say just SNES alone was one of the greatest things to see. But I did miss things like being able to play secret of MANA with my friends. So network will be a great thing for me. Keep up the great work yoyo.
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Post by alkemystical on Apr 8, 2006 20:56:51 GMT 1
How many players will be supported with the ad hoc multiplayer? it would be awesome to play 3+ player games like SoM or Super Bomberman.
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Post by pkmaximum on Apr 8, 2006 21:41:30 GMT 1
Hell ya secret of MANA with my friends would be insane! I just hope it doesn't like desynch a lot because it stinks when that happens when your doing net play on an emulator.
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Post by laxer3a on Apr 9, 2006 6:27:52 GMT 1
Small update from Laxer3A :
I spent some hours to review the implementation of TYL and found may be some place where improvment can be done for speed. I did some test and I was able to get a few fps.
There is actually 3 areas where I am checking right now :
- Skip completly transparent tile earlier in the rendering . (=use less cpu for these cases)
- I optimized the code itself a little bit.
- Go to swizzled texture.
From what I check these 3 improvments can get me around 3 to 5 fps in game like Street fighter or Super Mario World (out of 100+). That is not really huge (2 to 3%) but still worth it.
I need to test with heavy games like Axelay.
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Post by vin on Apr 9, 2006 7:37:59 GMT 1
another heavy game would be supermario rpg
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Post by laxer3a on Apr 9, 2006 11:56:52 GMT 1
Yes, but super mario RPG rely heavily on coprocessor... Axelay is just very heavy with the graphic chipset which is a better test for what I am tuning right now.
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Post by lunasicc on Apr 9, 2006 21:30:18 GMT 1
Laxer3a, is there any chance you or YoYo could release a patch for 3.0 (3.0b) that will have SRAM saving implemented into it? That is the main fix I was hoping to see in the next TYL. But seeing as the first release would be ME version, it leaves us 2.01+ users out in the cold for a while. We 2.01+ users, since we are restricted to use the non-Me version of TYL, a fix in the SRAM is what we are really looking forward to(well besides wi-fi mutliplayer). But I'm pretty sure we can wait on wi-fi multiplayer until it is fixed and working correctly.
I understand you guys are extremely busy and have life outside of coding, but this patch would be greatly appreciated. I know you could use the SAVE STATES but it just doesn't feel like your playing a SNES games without having in-game saves.
Thanks for your time and good luck coding guys!
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Post by laxer3a on Apr 10, 2006 1:33:28 GMT 1
You are missing the point with our release system.
When we release 0.4 there is going to be 2 release at the same time :
0.4 ME
and 0.4 without ME
The SRAM bug is fixed. So the 0.4 will be fixed.
We didnt release any patch in between because STATES can do the same job for you.
Bye.
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Post by lunasicc on Apr 10, 2006 1:55:01 GMT 1
Okay thanks for clearing that up.
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Post by betatester on Apr 10, 2006 3:05:25 GMT 1
isnt star fox heavy on the gfx chip? or is that one a problem because of the FX chip... yea actually... nevermind. keep up the good work  |
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Post by lunasicc on Apr 16, 2006 3:09:11 GMT 1
Hey, its been a few weeks since the beta testing and I was wondering on how TYL is doing right now? Are most major bugs fixed? Sorry to bother you guys but its been killing me since I haven't heard any updates. I understand you guys are busy and have a life to lead so I dont expect lighting fast responses and updates. Again, thanks for your time guys and all that you've done to help the PSP community.
Keep up the good work!
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Post by kyrth on Apr 16, 2006 6:19:08 GMT 1
isn't one of the forum rules not to ask when new versions are coming?
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Post by lunasicc on Apr 16, 2006 8:10:21 GMT 1
Hmm...what an ass kisser. I never asked when the new version was coming out. Tell me exactly where I stated that please? I was simply asking if there were and updates or breakthroughs fixing the pre-release TYL. Now if thats asking about when the new version is coming out, then delete my post. If not then stop trying to be a mod please...
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Post by laxer3a on Apr 16, 2006 10:31:30 GMT 1
lunasicc >> Relax man !!! :-)
I was hesitating to answer to kyrth saying that you didnt ask for a precise date. I also got no news from yoyo these days... So I was going just to skip his comment.
As you reacted quite strongly I felt I had to answer.
No there is no problem, and we are still working on it. The problem is that we didnt had so much time these days. (I add to do 2 release to customers last week at my work)
Each time I code on my PSP I end up still coding at 4 AM having to go to work after... So I need to stop for a while.
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Post by kyrth on Apr 16, 2006 15:41:49 GMT 1
eh... sorry lunasicc. I didn't mean to offend you so much. I was just wondering.
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Post by lunasicc on Apr 16, 2006 19:23:38 GMT 1
Kyrth no need to say sorry. I guess I shouldnt bother the devs about updates on TYL and just be patient.
Laxer3a, its understandable that you're busy with work and such to code. I was just curious on where TYL was at. Anyways, take your time and give yoursefl breaks whenever needed, no pressure!
Thanks for the little heads-up on TYL too.
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Post by pow on Apr 18, 2006 0:43:46 GMT 1
I WANT VERSION 4 ... AND I WANT IT NOW!!! No I am not sorry for the caps! And if anyone has any problem I can send my ...sister! So beware! She is single and quite heavy ... 240 lbs (did I say she is single? Oh yeah I did...)! Come on! Version 4 now in my inbox: I_want_ver_4_of_a_great_emulator_for_the_psp@NOW.com ;D Ok lets stop the joke here! ( It WAS a joke after all... My sister is *only* 239 lbs!). I want to say a big [glow=red,2,300]THANK YOU[/glow] to TYL for the great job. I have *only* snes9xTYL and the demo disc that came with the psp... It is awesome that I can play all these games again (thanks to this awesome emu...). I understand that if I continue to write I will write every compliment I know so I must stop here! Thank you again TYL and take your time for the next release. I can wait forever! (or untill my sister loses 100 lbs! ...oh well ...forever!) P.S. -1- I WANT... Oh sorry! No more caps huh? A mad mod ( ;D ) is ready to delete my post. Ok then here it goes: I want version 4 NOW!  P.S. -2- Forgive my bad English, it is not my native language. I can speak well in ...caps if you want! P.S. -3- *** There is no such thing as P.S. -3- ! Goto P.S. -4- *** P.S. -4- Again and again! I want (emmmm....) to (not ask about ver 4) thank you for this great emu (btw where is ver 4?)! Laugh a little more and the world would be brighter tomorrow ;D Keep up the good work! |
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Post by joebro on Apr 18, 2006 18:54:34 GMT 1
I WANT VERSION 4 ... AND I WANT IT NOW!!! No I am not sorry for the caps! And if anyone has any problem I can send my ...sister! So beware! She is single and quite heavy ... 240 lbs (did I say she is single? Oh yeah I did...)! Come on! Version 4 now in my inbox: I_want_ver_4_of_a_great_emulator_for_the_psp@NOW.com ;D Ok lets stop the joke here! ( It WAS a joke after all... My sister is *only* 239 lbs!). I want to say a big [glow=red,2,300]THANK YOU[/glow] to TYL for the great job. I have *only* snes9xTYL and the demo disc that came with the psp... It is awesome that I can play all these games again (thanks to this awesome emu...). I understand that if I continue to write I will write every compliment I know so I must stop here! Thank you again TYL and take your time for the next release. I can wait forever! (or untill my sister loses 100 lbs! ...oh well ...forever!) P.S. -1- I WANT... Oh sorry! No more caps huh? A mad mod ( ;D ) is ready to delete my post. Ok then here it goes: I want version 4 NOW! P.S. -2- Forgive my bad English, it is not my native language. I can speak well in ...caps if you want! P.S. -3- *** There is no such thing as P.S. -3- ! Goto P.S. -4- *** P.S. -4- Again and again! I want (emmmm....) to (not ask about ver 4) thank you for this great emu (btw where is ver 4?)! Laugh a little more and the world would be brighter tomorrow ;D Keep up the good work! ..........wtf...........? |
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Post by freakanaya on Apr 18, 2006 23:32:12 GMT 1
^ what he said.
wtf?
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Post by pow on Apr 19, 2006 1:05:17 GMT 1
 Hey people! Lighten up a little bit! I was just joking... Maybe it is the so called ...culture thing. That post made many of my friends here in Greece to laugh (although some laughed because I was waving my shotgun at them ;D ). I should know better that it isnt funny for everyone. Sorry if I caused any trouble. It was *just a joke*. P.S. Btw I dont have a sister. It is a common saying here in Greece (yes I am from Greece too) to use a fantastic (non-existance?) "sister" for every ...dirty job P.S. -?- (I am not counting anymore...) Keep on smiling! I did it only because I am so exited about the upcoming release 
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Post by trivia on Apr 19, 2006 12:48:08 GMT 1
Hey people! Lighten up a little bit! I was just joking... Maybe it is the so called ...culture thing. That post made many of my friends here in Greece to laugh (although some laughed because I was waving my shotgun at them ;D ). I should know better that it isnt funny for everyone. Sorry if I caused any trouble. It was *just a joke*. P.S. Btw I dont have a sister. It is a common saying here in Greece (yes I am from Greece too) to use a fantastic (non-existance?) "sister" for every ...dirty job P.S. -?- (I am not counting anymore...) Keep on smiling! I did it only because I am so exited about the upcoming release [ot]Mh you are from greece? Sister sister... adelfè? ahahah [/ot] |
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