Features you would like to see on snes9xTYL

[greekslover]

far2gud said:

The abiility to send files wirelessly from one psp to another from the main menu would be nice.

Sorry, but this furum is talking about snes emulator not a file sender. Search www.psp-hacks.com for one.

[prettzv]

I would like to see more volume. Games are running great, but I cannot hear them anymore. It seems to have droped off more now, than on previous versions. If it causes quality to drop, then give us the option to adjust volume to a point that the user finds acceptable. But that is just my idea. Keep up the great work.

[silenthillnight]

It'd be cool to see snes9xtyl emulate a turbo controller. My fingers are getting too old for these button mash games now.

[dessydago]

Great emulator, only thing I want is for raiden trad to work =-). Also is ME completly done? I noticed a double dose of speech on games like ken griffey jr, where say you get an out, out is repeated twice. Nothing big was just wondering about it.

[nguman]

dessydago said:

Great emulator, only thing I want is for raiden trad to work =-). Also is ME completly done? I noticed a double dose of speech on games like ken griffey jr, where say you get an out, out is repeated twice. Nothing big was just wondering about it.

I know Raiden Trad doesn't work for some reason, and it has a lower GFX system than the legend of Zelda..

[dessydago]

nguman said:

dessydago said:

Great emulator, only thing I want is for raiden trad to work =-). Also is ME completly done? I noticed a double dose of speech on games like ken griffey jr, where say you get an out, out is repeated twice. Nothing big was just wondering about it.

I know Raiden Trad doesn't work for some reason, and it has a lower GFX system than the legend of Zelda..

pretty sure that it has nothing to do with it being a cpu killer cause its full out 60 fps. It also works til it wants you to control it, so I have no idea. Oh yah playing star fox on my psp is so much fun thanks for that guys (frame skip 4 + smoothing) get from 20 to 40 fps on levels.

[mavsman4457]

so my final list would be
1. include other emulators: GBC/GB, Genisis, Game Gear, NES, etc.
2. mp3 playback
3. manually switchable backgrounds
4. ability to send roms to other psps in case someone that you want to play adhoc against doesn't have a certain rom

[nguman]

dessydago said:

nguman said:

I know Raiden Trad doesn't work for some reason, and it has a lower GFX system than the legend of Zelda..

pretty sure that it has nothing to do with it being a cpu killer cause its full out 60 fps. It also works til it wants you to control it, so I have no idea. Oh yah playing star fox on my psp is so much fun thanks for that guys (frame skip 4 + smoothing) get from 20 to 40 fps on levels.

Yeah man whats up with that, We can play Star Fox but not Raiden Trad, also I want to see more people helping you guys...

[siggi]

maybe some alternate menu guis

[prettzv]

Also the option to choose the background music (unless it is implemented adn I am too d**ned dumb to find it) BTW Great music selection atm. All the oldies and goldies

[Cheeezy]

you can have your own but you cant select it, you have to have random ones play then skip it.

[romowes]

I think wifi play between computer and psp would be awesome! of course that would have to take into account that they are 2 different emus and such.

[demulish]

1.Turbo Feature
I second having a turbo/rapid fire feature. It would be really helpful to finally be able to guzz down all those sodas at the millennial fair in Chrono Trigger.

2.Save more snapshots
And I don't know if this is possible already, but being able to save more than one jpeg snapshot of a game would be nice. (I know it's used for the ROM Browser, but I actually like to save some screen shots of various points in a game and I have 1/2 a gig of room for it so I wouldn't mind the extra space being used)

That's about it keep up the great work.

[pspnewb]

mavsman4457 said:

so my final list would be
1. include other emulators: GBC/GB, Genisis, Game Gear, NES, etc.
2. mp3 playback
3. manually switchable backgrounds
4. ability to send roms to other psps in case someone that you want to play adhoc against doesn't have a certain rom

all of these features would be amazing

[prettzv]

MP3 playback would be nice, but as long as it does not cut into any game speed. And nothing I really need ATM. This could be a very late addition IMHO.

Now if we could choose our won SPC song muting what the game is playing so I could use zelda themes while playing tetris. Somethign liket hat would be neat

[mavsman4457]

nguman said:

I want to see more people helping you guys...

I'm not sure if an extra programmer would help or if he would just get in the way.

[tsurumaru]

Considering the fact that both laxer3a and yoyofr have been posting for some time now that they would like more coders to help them I'd say that I agree with nguman. In fact here's a quote from Laxer3a from just the other day:

"I dont spend anymore time coding on PSP since weeks now.

It would be so nice to have more people working on this emu."

As to some of the other features suggested I don't want to seem like a party pooper but:

1. include other emulators: GBC/GB, Genisis, Game Gear, NES, etc.

Why would you want this? These emulators are already available, is it particularly difficult to close one and open another. Seriously if you want to have this kind of functionality I'd rather prefer an external app that integrates your installed emulators.

2. mp3 playback

As pointed out before MP3 decoding is fairly processor costly I wouldn't want a feature that was likely to impact on the emulators effectiveness.

3. manually switchable backgrounds

This actually seems like a fairly good idea, it wouldn't be too hard to implement the functionality to do this.

4. ability to send roms to other psps in case someone that you want to play adhoc against doesn't have a certain rom

This has some legal (and moral) implications although I'm not sure that many people would be bothered by them, I'm pretty sure that laxer3a and yoyofr would.

Now it goes without saying that everyone here has personally dumped the Roms from the legal copies of the games that they own that they now play emulated on their PSP's. ^^;

The functionality you suggest has the specific aim of distributing a Rom to someone who doesn't have it, and why don't they have it? 99% of the time this would be because they don't legally own a copy of the game wherein lies the problem.

[prettzv]

nicely stated Tsurumaru

[laxer3a]

Nice move... about the file transfer "legal" issue.
Yoyo and I talked about it from long time ago... Just on the tech side, but I really see your point.

Now, if you send your ROM... and your opponent USE IT and do not SAVE IT.(stored in RAM, but disappear when you shut down).

One would agree that it is LEGAL isnt it ? :-)

[tsurumaru]

Thanks laxer3a, actually yeah I did consider whether if you used some form of non cached Rom whether you guys would go for that so I hadn't ruled it out completely .

[mavsman4457]

tsurumaru said:

Considering the fact that both laxer3a and yoyofr have been posting for some time now that they would like more coders to help them I'd say that I agree with nguman. In fact here's a quote from Laxer3a from just the other day:

"I dont spend anymore time coding on PSP since weeks now.

It would be so nice to have more people working on this emu."

As to some of the other features suggested I don't want to seem like a party pooper but:

1. include other emulators: GBC/GB, Genisis, Game Gear, NES, etc.

Why would you want this? These emulators are already available, is it particularly difficult to close one and open another. Seriously if you want to have this kind of functionality I'd rather prefer an external app that integrates your installed emulators.

2. mp3 playback

As pointed out before MP3 decoding is fairly processor costly I wouldn't want a feature that was likely to impact on the emulators effectiveness.

3. manually switchable backgrounds

This actually seems like a fairly good idea, it wouldn't be too hard to implement the functionality to do this.

4. ability to send roms to other psps in case someone that you want to play adhoc against doesn't have a certain rom

This has some legal (and moral) implications although I'm not sure that many people would be bothered by them, I'm pretty sure that laxer3a and yoyofr would.

Now it goes without saying that everyone here has personally dumped the Roms from the legal copies of the games that they own that they now play emulated on their PSP's. ^^;

The functionality you suggest has the specific aim of distributing a Rom to someone who doesn't have it, and why don't they have it? 99% of the time this would be because they don't legally own a copy of the game wherein lies the problem.

OK you make some good points but I would like to address a few of your comments . About the coding thing, you make a good point but I believe that I made that post before laxer3a made his post addressing the same issue. About the other emulators, you are right that it isn't that difficult to switch out to a different program but snes9xTYL is the best and I would like to see some of it's features in those other emulators. For mp3 playback, I'm sure many people would like it and I think laxer3a said that it is doable. Also, I don't think it would affect the processor if that feature was implemented but turned off at one's own will. And about the ROM switching, that's another good point about the lagality.

[tsurumaru]

Hi mavsman4457,

Sorry if my earlier post sounded a bit harsh, that wasn't the first time that Laxer3a has mentioned extra help (there have been two or three earlier posts that have said similar things) its just the first that I could find. ^^;

With regards to other emulators lacking some of the functionality that you would like to see then just think about it. Should it be laxer3a's and yoyfr's responsibility to create a whole new emulator with the additional functionality in or should you be suggesting the functionality to an existing emulators author. Remember we are talking about open source coding here and I'm sure that if the author of a N64 emulator for example was to say to the TYL team; "I really like the work you've done on the Media Engine do you mind if I incorporate it into my current work" that they'd be really happy as long as it was done in the right way.

Personally I think the ROM swapping feature would be welcomed, I think an approach like laxer3a suggests of a temporary rom file that is wiped when the TYL is exited would silence most objections that people might have (its still a grey moral area LOL).
I'm on the fence for MP3 playback, from what I have heard its a bit of a resource monster, I guess the only suggestion I could have is that perhaps if its engaged then sound emulation is off (where possible). laxer3a, how feasible is this, could you then use the ME in the 1.5 version for some of the grunt work?

Turbopad emulation would be good if possible as would enabling more snapshots.

[laxer3a]

Hi,

for the mp3 thingy, I bet yoyo have a mp3 decoding routine somewhere ready to roll...
Just stick it on the ME should do the job most likely.

But personnaly, i think an emulator is not a media player... ;-)
While you may enjoy music in the metro going home and playing snes, and that could be fun.
But... Keeping it simple would be nice too.

I love simple things, that does what they are designed for...
Most of the software gets bad once they try to incorporate too much feature of other tool to get market shares...

Look at Winzip, Acdsee and so many software that were good once.
When it becomes more complex than a nuclear power plant to handle, i think its time to remove some features :-P

[manias]

why not get a cheapass mp3 player, plugin your audio there, and play psp without sound?
(now you're gonna say you really enjoy mario's jumping sounds)

[Cheeezy]

We REALLY need quick key combinations for quick save and quick load. It is a real pain in may (pardon my french) ass to go the the menu every single time. If you were to do only one thing, this is what i would want it to be. I hope other people agree with this!

And, what do you need an mp3 player for? Video game music is the best, and you coul always us IRshell.

[demulish]

^ I came here today to post about the same thing. Is it possible to implement one button save state and one button state load? I know the PSP has only so many buttons, but most of the SNES games I play have room to switch a few buttons that I never use (i.e. Start or Select, L and R) that I could definitely use for save state/load. And also turbo feature would be nice...

So my 3 ideal features for next release would be:

1. Save state/load one button
2. Turbo auto fire feature for buttons
3. Ability to save more snapshots (like say, Nester J lets you do)

[mavsman4457]

laxer3a said:

Hi,

for the mp3 thingy, I bet yoyo have a mp3 decoding routine somewhere ready to roll...
Just stick it on the ME should do the job most likely.

But personnaly, i think an emulator is not a media player... ;-)
While you may enjoy music in the metro going home and playing snes, and that could be fun.
But... Keeping it simple would be nice too.

I love simple things, that does what they are designed for...
Most of the software gets bad once they try to incorporate too much feature of other tool to get market shares...

Look at Winzip, Acdsee and so many software that were good once.
When it becomes more complex than a nuclear power plant to handle, i think its time to remove some features :-P

Even though I would like an mp3 player encoded into snes9xtyl I think you are right. It is fine for the normal user of this emu to keep adding features that might not be necessary but for the new guy that has to figure it out it may be too much. I have tried launching this through IRshell but it wouldn't work for me. Has anyone else gotten it to work?

[ovmaltby]

I would like to see the USB Mode (which allows you to play ROMs which are located on a pc) be extended to WIFI as well - so you could play ROMs which were on a PC but you wouldn't be required to use a USB cable. This could also be used with the idea of allowing a friend who didn't have the ROM to play against you.