Lightspeed or Warpspeed?

[acefreely]

Hi there, I have recently purchased warpspeed and I can't get the program to work on my treo 650(even at the normal settings) whenever I tap on enable and launch LJP, the screen goes white and freezes. I'm now considering purchasing lightspeed. Does anyone out there know if there is any advantage of having warpspeed over lightspeed? I've heard a lot of good things about lightspeed and I'd like to see what you guys think. thanks

[namelessplayer]

I picked warpSpeed because Lightspeed can't set clocks for apps on the SD card.

(In the case of LJP, the launcher always works itself into main memory, but I prefer to keep my games on my SD card, particularly the FPS ports.)

On the other hand, warpSpeed makes certain functions of a replacement Palm launcher give Fatal Exceptions, like the Beam menu. (I just use FileZ for beaming anyway.)

There's also PXA Clocker, but I haven't bothered to try it.

[semi]

I only have Lightspeed, I never used WarpSpeed so I don't really know which is better, however, PXA Clocker has quite alot of options that you can enable or disable, but I don't recommand it because it is somewhat confusing and if you done it wrong, you'll get a fatal error, and even worse, you might lose all data on your PDA (just like having a hard reset w/ data wipe)

WarpSpeed and Lightspeed are better in terms of overlocking your PDA safer (If WarpSpeed is like what I think it is..)

[acefreely]

I still can't get warpspeed to work on my palm, I've tried everything. Thanks for the input though, I think I'm going to purchase lightspeed because with the trial I can run genesis and snes games perfectly (with sound) It's great!!! Thanks to all who have brought the classics back into my life.

[_Em]

WarpSpeed won't work if you have MultiUserHack or any of its ilk installed -- anything that changes the HotSync ID on the fly.

[Tinnus]

700 MHz?

[_Em]

Interesting... never heard of that one. Plus, as mentioned, there's always PXAClocker.

[tgwaste]

i never heard of it either.. on my treo 680 itll set the speed but does not maintain it.

man I wish they would make a 680 overclocker (((

[needhelp]

guys, I have a big problem that needs some help .
I decided to try freeclock. I just set it to 234mhz from the 200mhz of the tungsten E2 processor. The screen showed lines and disappeared. I tried to reset, press the On/off button, nothing is working. Is it DEAD ?? Will opening it and removing the battery help ??

Thanks

[tgwaste]

ide definately pop out the battery ASAP.

[_Em]

When you clock the bus speed to high, the controller no longer receives signals from the attached components -- including the CPU, the LCD screen, the digitizer screen, the hard buttons, and, yes, even the reset button.

Draining/shorting the battery resets the bus to its default value.

Note: if you short the battery instead of draining it, you should short it with at least 5 ohms of resistance, if I recall correctly.

[needhelp]

ok, thanks.
How do you short a battery? For draining, I know that you can just open the palm, unattach the battery and just leave it like that. Did I miss something there or is there something that I should watch out for to prevent me from ruining the palm? Is the cover hard to remove, etc...? Also, how do I know if the battery is fully drained? Is a couple of hours good(~3h) or more is needed?
Thanks

[semi]

Tested Freeclock on my Clie PEG-NX80V with a XScale PXA263 CPU and it doesn't work at all, it will just throw you a fatal error message, I doubt it will work with any other PDA with different XScale CPU other than PXA270, back to my Lightspeed.

[Tinnus]

I will try on my LifeDrive one of these days

[needhelp]

How long do I leave the battery to drain ?
Thanks

Edit: After leaving the battery disconnected for ~2-3h, I decided to hook it back up. I made sure everything was in place and closed the palm. I tried to press the reset button and power button with no luck, BUT I knew that they wouldn't work, since, I have to recharge it. I hooked the palm into my computer, turned it on by the power button and it worked . What a relief The reason is that I used the program to try and overclock and the screen faded and it wouldn't turn back on. I thought that I might have bricked it , but everything is good now
Thanks a lot for the help tgwaste and _Em ;D.

[_Em]

Disconnecting Battery: If you disconnect, it is 100% drained right away. Just re-connect it (maybe wait 5 secs) and you're ready to go.

Shorting Battery: If you don't want to de-solder, you just need to bridge the + and - leads of the battery with some conductive substance that has a bit of resistance (but not TOO much) - a 5 ohm resistor should do the trick, as should something that is conductive but has a load (an LED bulb?)

Draining Battery: Two ways:
1) try to keep the Palm turned on, until it just won't turn on anymore... then leave it for a few days to complete the draining process.
2) Really like shorting above: attach something in parallel to the battery leads that uses a lot of juice - I used a DC-powered spotlight, and it drained the battery in under 2 minutes.

When you have everything hooked back up again, you plug it into your charging supply, and within a minute it should boot up normally. If it locks up at the Palm screen, you've damaged the Flash somehow, and you'll need to pull off one of the fancy 5-handed resets to fix it (or return for repair/exchange).

[needhelp]

I was surprised at how easy it was to open the palm up and remove the battery . Previously, I read that its pretty difficult to do so . What is this fancy 5-handed reset that you are talking about?
Thanks again

[_Em]

Palm Reset Summary

That about covers it. I was referring to the "zero out" reset.

Current Palm devices have the battery soldered in, and have a plethora of reset options.

[hansschmucker]

I've used Lightspeed on the NX70v and the Zodiac1/2 and for me it was always very stable... it's also probably the most user friendly... launch it, tap application, tap low/normal/high... done. However there are some reports from people using other devices that say the exact opposite.

As for the resets... on the Zodiac there's a very simple option if all other options fail: Unscrew the back plate (four screws, I can't tell you what they are called but they are in most cellphone screwdriver sets) and pull the plug (yes, this thing actually has a PLUG for the battery, no soldering). However I can't remember ever having to do that, except to switch batteries...

[Tinnus]

I think it's called a Torx T5 screwdrive or something very like this.