Chinpus BGP100 Bluetooth Gamepad

[astroraptor]

I'm wondering if it works for the Treo 650? I'd love to have a gamepad for it. Playing games using the 5-way rocker and tiny buttons really kills the hands. ;D

[metaview]

It's terrible but it works with the Z-games for sure.

[angel]

It would be great if large enough to take our handlets in when you open the "wings".
As it is not possible, metaview made his driver so you can assign yourself the key, allowing to play with it gamepad "closed".

Its usefull in subway or train, but when i have the room, i prefer the ir keyboard (you can find for a cheap price on ebay, about 10$). The keyboard touch is exactly the same than a notebook, there is plenty of keys to assign and its an instant response between the keypress and the action.

When Tinnus will include this in LJP(r?) and Vilmos in PalmMame it will be a real tiny revolution for our palms

[astroraptor]

Thanks guys. So I take it it's not a choice when looking for a controller for the Treo 650? =/

[metaview]

I prefer to play with the normal Treo keyboard instead of this gamepad. If you think the keyboard is too small, then you will be not very lucky with the BT gamepad. The only thing might, if you would mod it and put into a real gamepad case.

[astroraptor]

That would be really sexy but I think I'll wait until an official Treo gamepad comes along. =/

[metaview]

Well... I guess, you will have to wait forever then.

[mavsman4457]

I know this doesn't even work for the computer through bluetooth yet but wouldn't it be awesome if you could use your PS3 controller as a gamepad for your palm? I would love that.

[astroraptor]

metaview said:

Well... I guess, you will have to wait forever then.

www.smartgamepad.com

Apprently, you can assign hardware buttons for the controller. I contacted the company to ask them if the controller is compatible and fits the Treo 650, they said yes.

[needhelp]

Hello there,
Just wondering, what are Z-games?

Thanks

[astroraptor]

needhelp said:

Hello there,
Just wondering, what are Z-games?

Thanks

ZDoomZ
zQuake
zHeretic
zHexen
zHexen2

www.metaviewsoft.de

[metaview]

astroraptor: this is the BT gamepad which works for the Z-Games and other games which don't poll for keyinput.

[astroraptor]

metaview said:

astroraptor: this is the BT gamepad which works for the Z-Games and other games which don't poll for keyinput.

I don't get it, they're lying on the website? You can't set the buttons to hardware buttons on the PDA?

[metaview]

They aren't really lying. Reason: games like Z-Games or LJP doesn't do any normal Palm event handling. They run in a loop, polling for key presses and draw the screen. As far as I imagine: their driver hooks itself in the event-queue, but without event processing, the driver is never called. At least, the last time I've checked it, it didn't work.

[astroraptor]

Well I'm glad I didn't order the gamepad then.

[metaview]

why?

[astroraptor]

Because it doesn't work with LJP. I'm actually okay with playing the Z games with the keyboard. Having the gamepad would be more of a luxury. Having the gamepad for LJP would cause my hands to no longer cramp up. XD

[vilmos]

angel said:

When Tinnus will include this in LJP(r?) and Vilmos in PalmMame it will be a real tiny revolution for our palms

You are right. I should get that done on PalmMAME. I have an IR keyboard after all. No BT Gamepad though so someone else would have to test it.

[angel]

Especially for shoot'em up where key are used a lot and the risk to break the palm are great

[namelessplayer]

How about some Wiimote or Sixaxis support? Buying a classic controller attachment for my one Wiimote is far more cost-effective for me, and it would make a better gamepad!

(Unfortunately, this really wouldn't pertain to me until LJP becomes LJWM somehow, perhaps with LJR/LJX...my T|C lacks Bluetooth, and my newer-to-me X50v is a WM device.)

[countbuggula]

Haha, aren't we demanding? First bluetooth support and then LJWM. Have classic controllers been hacked yet for windows even? Last time I checked they only had the wiimote and hadn't figured out the classic controller yet.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

[metaview]

A classic PC gameport adapter will come, but still takes some time...

[namelessplayer]

About the Wiimote CC attachment being supported on the PC, GlovePIE supports it according to the green text near the top. Other Wiimote drivers probably support it as well. Now if they'd release both WM and Palm OS drivers, even though the latter is useless to me because I have a T|C...

I can wait on LJWM, since I already have PocketNester, Genesis Plus, and PocketSNES OpenGL-ES for my X50v emulation needs. Besides, I wouldn't want a half-assed port to be rushed out just for my sake. It'll probably come anyway once LJR/LJX/whatever starts making some serious headway, given that it's SDL-based, and a SDL port for WinCE exists. (Perhaps said SDL port supports the threading aspect necessary to port the greatest game ever to WM...)

And about this "classic PC gameport adapter", I have a few questions:

-How does it interface to the device? Universal Connector? Multi-Connector? IR? Bluetooth?
-Am I going to be limited to four analog axes and four buttons? And will the FPS ports support the analog axes in analog mode? (I don't think the consoles ever had controllers with analog inputs, so maybe each direction of an analog axis could function as a digital button. That would result in more than enough buttons for SNES...)
-Where am I going to get a gameport gamepad with enough buttons to fully replicate a SNES controller? All I have gameport-wise are a TM F-22 Pro and a Suncom SFS Throttle, which would work great for flight sims, but much less so for console games.

Such a device should bypass the T|C's infernal keypress slowdown issue, at least...