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Post by samphex on Jun 18, 2008 19:34:10 GMT 1
Hey everyone, I have been on the forums for a long time as I love LJP.
I want to try to contribute to the coding now instead of suggesting ideas now.
Icefire has told me to learn c and/or c#.
What are the differences between them and which one would help more in contributing to LJP/LJX?
I also want to know what would be the best program(freeware if possible) to get started in coding and to get started into editing LJP/LJX.
If anyone also know some good guides online I would appreciate for a link.
Thanks everyone!
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Post by metaview on Jun 18, 2008 20:12:27 GMT 1
LJP is C and C++. C# is a Microsoft Invention to get some parts of the Java market. LJP needs CodeWarrior, LJX should work with gcc (which is free). I rather suggest to start with something easier than LJP/X. Ask Tinnus how much bugs one can enter in a code as a beginner  |
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Post by samphex on Jun 18, 2008 20:24:07 GMT 1
Is it better to learn c and then c# or other way around?
And is gcc noob friendly?
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Post by icefire on Jun 18, 2008 22:04:02 GMT 1
samphex: I never mentioned C#  . Learn PHP or something easy, then learn C for command line, then don't enter palm at all costs . Whats the point of programming for a dead OS ? OK, so if you still want to program for palm (  ), then download Garnet OS developers suite from developerpavillion.com (sign up first). Then open up the samples and the documentation (on the web), and look around. Make changes. After that, try starting a new project, use the "hello world" application as a base. Read through the code, find out what all of it does/means. Then made it actually do something, maybe a simple text editor that saves to memos or something. Learn the prefrences and stuff. After that, download a game's source. A SIMPLE game (not in ARM or anything...). Look at it, maybe make a few improvements. Add features, new game modes, or something. Then try programming a (VERY simple) game from scratch. After that, go on the web and read up about ARM -- breaking into it, how to use it, how to compile it, etc. You can learn some ARM ASM now too, if you want. Download the sources for a simple PC emulator (dos preferably). Get it to compile, learn how it works, maybe add a few things to it, or modify something. Make sure it is written in C. Spend $400 for codewarrior (if you made it this far, its worth it ). NOW, PM metaview and ask to help on LJP . Im still on the learn arm part . [Also see _Em's post to some n00b about "want to make my own palm emulators"]
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Post by samphex on Jun 18, 2008 22:35:07 GMT 1
wow... lotsa steps. thanks IF
Now I'm just curious... will the new palm linux OS have the same coding so I can continue C for palm when palm really dies?
Also, I have never heard of PHP. What exactly is that and what can it do?
And as for a simple game source, can anyone suggest any? I know I won't need it right now but are there any suggestions on that?
Edit: The site yo mentioned is down at the moment. Dang it.
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Post by coder12 on Jun 18, 2008 23:54:24 GMT 1
And as for a simple game source, can anyone suggest any? I know I won't need it right now but are there any suggestions on that? Clonekeen? Maybe you could help me out with it ;D! I started with yBasic from RH Nicholson at the age of 12 or something, and then I just went on from there. My brother had gone through a few computer progging. classes and he helped me get started with some more advanced things, and now I'm finally porting projects. Icefire's guide is a good one though. I'd follow that. |
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Post by icefire on Jun 19, 2008 2:23:13 GMT 1
coder12: Can i help with clonekeen? Im bored  , and all im doing is programming a BoD website and boring ZwiimoteZ (my new name, wiimotelib was taken )
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Post by samphex on Jun 19, 2008 2:49:06 GMT 1
coder12: Can i help with clonekeen? Im bored , and all im doing is programming a BoD website and boring ZwiimoteZ (my new name, wiimotelib was taken ) offtopic, but that should be wimotez if you want people to be able to pronounce it lol. Is clonekeen simple? Or do you just want another person to port it for you? I'm just kidding. |
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Post by icefire on Jun 19, 2008 2:54:42 GMT 1
IIRC, Clonekeen is NOT simple to port, i probably cant alone  . No, it is more like ZDoomZ, not wiimotez (but now it is that, I like it better ) |
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Post by coder12 on Jun 19, 2008 3:09:26 GMT 1
coder12: Can i help with clonekeen? Im bored , and all im doing is programming a BoD website and boring ZwiimoteZ (my new name, wiimotelib was taken ) offtopic, but that should be wimotez if you want people to be able to pronounce it lol. Is clonekeen simple? Or do you just want another person to port it for you? I'm just kidding. Ha ha, that's funny. The first project I did anything to actually was Clumps. A fun and freeware version of the game Bubblet. (a.k.a. jawbreaker on the ppc "dark side" ) icefire: Really? You want to help? Or are you joking? I'm working on the icon for it as I type. (well, not as I'm typing, but during the spare time. You get what I mean ) Edit: What is this thing? -> |
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Post by icefire on Jun 19, 2008 16:20:01 GMT 1
Really . Im bored, and i want to try commander keen . How far are you? |
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Post by coder12 on Jun 19, 2008 19:19:23 GMT 1
Really . Im bored, and i want to try commander keen . How far are you? Not very far. All I've done so far is take some good looks at the code, and mark which folders are done and don't need to be modified. I'll email you the folder right now. |
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Post by icefire on Jun 19, 2008 19:35:10 GMT 1
thanks. ill take a look.
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Post by samphex on Jun 19, 2008 20:30:07 GMT 1
Mind linking clumps?
And is there an alternative for the developerpavillion site? It seems to be down right now.
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Post by icefire on Jun 19, 2008 20:40:57 GMT 1
Try access.com and then click on the developer section.
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Post by coder12 on Jun 19, 2008 21:02:13 GMT 1
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Post by icefire on Jun 19, 2008 21:43:56 GMT 1
Edit: What is this thing? -> The : P smiley from the Bike or Die forums. I think it's funny |
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Post by icefire on Jun 19, 2008 21:48:27 GMT 1
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Post by coder12 on Jun 20, 2008 0:09:53 GMT 1
Edit: What is this thing? -> The : P smiley from the Bike or Die forums. I think it's funny  I think that this picture is funny. Also, the source wouldn't send (google won't let you get .bat or .exe files i guess ) So the source is found here : sourceforge.net/projects/clonekeen/and the 1st game is legal for download, found on the main clonekeen website. ( clonekeen.sourceforge.net/) |
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Post by samphex on Jun 20, 2008 1:03:23 GMT 1
Uhhh....Wow...There's a lot of downloads. Any suggestion on which one first?
And where's the source for clumps?(And which program should I use to edit? GCC?)
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Post by coder12 on Jun 20, 2008 1:12:29 GMT 1
Uhhh....Wow...There's a lot of downloads. Any suggestion on which one first? And where's the source for clumps?(And which program should I use to edit? GCC?) Yes, clumps used gcc I believe. And the source is included with the actual download. |
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. Learn PHP or something easy, then learn C for command line, then don't enter palm at all costs 
), then download Garnet OS developers suite from developerpavillion.com (sign up first). Then open up the samples and the documentation (on the web), and look around. Make changes.
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