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Post by canto86 on Feb 23, 2006 23:19:38 GMT 1
Would it be possible for you to emulate Medal of Honor for palm like you did with Doom. How I long for the day when I could play Medal of honor on the go.
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Post by _Em on Feb 23, 2006 23:26:11 GMT 1
Seems to me you would have done better to post this in the General Forum than in the one dedicated to LJP. |
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Post by veggie on Feb 24, 2006 0:00:13 GMT 1
doom is not an emulator, its a port (read the forum). even if it were possible to port MOD i dont think (hope im wrong) that anyone is up to it. also if/when LJP will have ps1 support u'd be able to play it.
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Post by mavsman4457 on Feb 24, 2006 4:47:21 GMT 1
is LJP rumored to have ps1 support or did you just pull that out of your butt. would it be possible to have ps1 support? i don't think it would be.
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Post by pavla on Feb 24, 2006 10:25:37 GMT 1
PS1 is already available on the zodiac, although slow, so it's definitely possible, but playable, that's the question.
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Post by Tinnus on Feb 24, 2006 14:40:44 GMT 1
Yeah, LJR (please don't ask what it is, just read a little) will probably have PS1. If it doesn't, there will be a separate PS1 emulator.
It will not be very fast for most people though... At least for a while. A pre-release should come around the same time as RC3 (ie: the time I fix my PC).
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Post by wantan on Feb 24, 2006 16:30:53 GMT 1
hahahahaa.... LJR: Little John Rambo?, Little John RISC? That's the mistery... so people... just wait and be surprised!
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Post by Tinnus on Feb 24, 2006 18:48:06 GMT 1
Mistery? Wow, people sure don't keep aup with the website. Ok, the site is down, but there's stuff about it in "The story so far..."  Oh and BTW MOH is not open source so it can't be ported, period. I forgot to say that above. |
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Post by angel on Feb 24, 2006 19:14:57 GMT 1
As people never read other post before asking, i guess noone will ever look if any source is open before asking you  |
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Post by canto86 on Feb 24, 2006 22:16:17 GMT 1
I own the game so would i be able to port it to palm with the files on the CD. Im not asking if it would be legal or not, but just if it would be possible.
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Post by angel on Feb 24, 2006 23:26:10 GMT 1
To "port" a program, you dont only need the file to play with it. You need the source code of the program. Before its compilated in order to be executed on a computer.
To have the right to do this with the sourcecode, they creator of the program must officialy put them in public domain (open source) under a licence like "gnu" for example.
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Post by _Em on Feb 25, 2006 1:33:22 GMT 1
Actually, there are two approaches... you can either port the source code (easier), or you can simulate the original program by rewriting it from scratch to interact with the datafiles to give the same results the original app did.
This is what ScummVM, FreeSCI, etc. do. It is also a LOT of work. Both are different from emulators, that work by recreating hardware in software. Usually with emulators, the "source code" for the original hardware is well documented, so the major issues are in translating the original methods to work on the current hardware, and in simulating any bios-style chips that might have existed.
Most of what Tinnus is doing is actually porting emulator source code designed for one chipset/OS so that it will work on another chipset/OS. He then, of course, adds in a HEAP of fixes and tweaks to make it functional in its new environment. This is the beauty of well documented hardware and "Free" (libre, not price) software.
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Post by mavsman4457 on Feb 26, 2006 5:10:37 GMT 1
what is the projected percent speed that ps1 will run on? what is the fastest device to run these emulators aside from zodiac?
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Post by Tinnus on Feb 26, 2006 14:41:05 GMT 1
The Zodiac is far from being the fastest with its mere 200 MHz The fastest devices are the TX, the LD and the T5 which can go th 614 MHz. And the "projected" speed, at least for now, is unplayably slow. Basically, the emulator is useless except for the awe factor of having PS1 running on your Palm, although 2% of the real speed. |
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Post by veggie on Feb 26, 2006 17:38:39 GMT 1
Tinnus, you keep focusing on like 5 projects at any given time (which is gr8 dont get me wrong) but can't you set aside some time for playable ps1. No matter how good LJR will be ps1 would be a technological revolution. No one has ever dreamed of anything like it. (also, linux for palm works already, so you should add porting all your software to linux into the to do list)
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Post by Tinnus on Feb 26, 2006 17:48:46 GMT 1
Nope, I'm not porting anything to Linux before there is more than 10 people needing it. ANd well, there is zero people atually NEEDING it because even if you can run Linux on your LD, for example, you still have Palm OS at your disposal.
Anyway, I won't lose my life working only on getting playable PS1 although I *will* work on optimizing the emulator. But it might be a worthless cause, which I'll only find out in the long run, so I don't want to stop working on other stuff. Moreover, small projects like HOTA are nearly finished, I just need to get my winXP installation back and polish it.
Currently my main priority is LJR, period. Much more possibilities with it. And of course, finishing Jazz and HOTA. Small side-projects are always fun. Also, lots of work is being done in the PS1 emulator, not by me, but just keep an eye out for gp2psx (the gp2x version of it). Basically they share the same core code so any optimizations made in one can be used for the other (even ASM code since they're both ARM9 CPUs).
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Post by veggie on Feb 26, 2006 18:13:15 GMT 1
Thank you tinnus, i don't think that linux is a worthless cause cuz it's got gr8 potential-gpe already loads all we need is some optimisations and ARM compatible software.
I appreciate the time ur spending on all ur apps (especially psx) but personally i don't use LJP that much. it already runs pretty smoothly for me. so i dont see why u want to focus on ljr asides from the *** module.
also will the gp2psx be playable on palm linux? or is it gp2x only? if not, will you be able to use bits of its code for ppsx?
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Post by Tinnus on Feb 26, 2006 18:27:01 GMT 1
No, I mean PSX might be a worthless cause, nox Linux. About PSX, read carefully. They share the same code. 99% of the changes in the emulator can be used for both platforms. About LJR, I have 3 main reasons to do it: - Porting to other platforms - Clean up code, easing development - Less bugs |
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Post by mavsman4457 on Feb 26, 2006 23:23:02 GMT 1
do you have linux for you palm? where can i download it? does it work well? etc.
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Post by veggie on Feb 26, 2006 23:30:13 GMT 1
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Post by mavsman4457 on Feb 26, 2006 23:31:58 GMT 1
is linux available for download on palm?
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Post by mavsman4457 on Feb 26, 2006 23:43:13 GMT 1
ok i think that you should work on either emulating *** at an acceptablt speed or ps1, whichever can be accomplished faster. or you could work on something else that YOU think is more important first since it is YOUR program and a lot of our suggestions probably just get you mad.
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Post by mavsman4457 on Feb 26, 2006 23:59:13 GMT 1
also, what makes ps1 play the games better than any palm? all i really know about the hardware is that a palm has a better processor than a ps1, i think.
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Post by Tinnus on Feb 27, 2006 0:23:03 GMT 1
Go read some about emulation and how is requires a much faster processor than the original. Also, try not to TRIPLE post |
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Post by mavsman4457 on Feb 27, 2006 1:26:30 GMT 1
my bad  |
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Post by canto86 on Feb 27, 2006 3:05:25 GMT 1
Man, the subject went from porting MOH to a chat about LJP.
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Post by kevinwit on Mar 20, 2006 23:23:49 GMT 1
i have a tungsten e and was wondering what type of speed can i get on that thing?
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Post by Tinnus on Mar 21, 2006 0:18:49 GMT 1
What thing? The PSX emu? Double-nutsty speed. It's wicked to see it run though, albeit at 0.5FPS.
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