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Post by mr.chockuls on Jun 23, 2006 0:08:46 GMT 1
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Post by angel on Jun 23, 2006 7:55:10 GMT 1
Quake 2 was really playable with a 3Dfx, i wonder the framerate of such a port on our device  |
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Post by metaview on Jun 23, 2006 8:06:13 GMT 1
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Post by kayge on Jun 23, 2006 18:25:38 GMT 1
I realize people would like Quake2 on Palms. But if its just variety your looking for there are many great TC's for Quake. I've tried a few and a surprising number of them actually work seamlessly with zQuake.
In fact I found one called Nehahra, over at the Quake Terminus site, that just looked fantastic. The download was actually a link to FilePlanet and the Pak's were a total of a whopping 150+ MB's. To my delight, I loaded them into a Nehahra folder in my zQuake on my SD card and the game runs perfectly.
Nehahra has its own site, go look at the screenshots, Its graphically stunning and all reviews give the gameplay 10/10.
My point is, there are LOTS of options to get the most out of the 3D shooters we already have for Palms. Enough to keep me occcupied for a long time to come. If the framerate is going to be painfully slow on a Quake2, then why bother.
But really go try Nehahra.
If only I could get the 400MB Intro movie and cutscenes to run on my Zire72, it would be a complete epic game in the palm of my hand. (The 400MB movie is a completely seperate and optional download. I tried it because I have 4GB SD, bit I can't get it to run. Oh well)
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Post by metaview on Jun 23, 2006 19:46:50 GMT 1
Oh, this looks cool. I have to try it out :-)
BTW: Did you found any good more real style mod? Something which plays in a real world enviroment and makes a kind of half-life out of it?
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Post by mr.chockuls on Jun 23, 2006 20:59:45 GMT 1
Ok, well, i will find more games that could be ported example: age of empires or tombraider
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Post by kayge on Jun 23, 2006 21:19:18 GMT 1
Well I have to admit, Tomb Raider would be nice. Since its already "out" (sort of) for Zodiac..
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Post by mr.chockuls on Jun 23, 2006 21:27:54 GMT 1
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Post by kayge on Jun 23, 2006 21:28:00 GMT 1
Oh, this looks cool. I have to try it out :-) BTW: Did you found any good more real style mod? Something which plays in a real world enviroment and makes a kind of half-life out of it? Here's a quick list of what worked for me so far (most available at Quake Terminus): Abyss of Pandemonium Alba (01 and 02) Borg Quake Nehahra Shrak Soldier of Fortune (this one looks promising, I've only loaded the 1st map) Starship 1 & 2 -as well as the very 1st two mission packs: Scourge of Armeggedon and Dissolution of Eternity Anyways, screenshots and short descriptions are available at Quake Terminus for all these mods. Alba looks sort of real world (old scottish countryside). Starship 2 starts on a polar outrcrop, very neat. And Soldier of Fortune has a little intro where you're on a ship with several other soldiers and then land on beach in the thick of battle. Nehahra loads to just a regular Quake start screen. You have to pull down the console and type "map nehstart" to start it. Metaview, if you can think of some way to get the Seal of Nehahra Intro movie and cut-scenes working let me know. The 400MB's of files are already on my SD card in the Nehahra directory, so any ideas I can try. I've tried a couple different console commands, but nothing so far. Apparently it just runs off the Quake engine, but you may need GLQuake or such, so maybe there is no hope. |
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Post by mr.chockuls on Jun 23, 2006 21:51:07 GMT 1
Did you run scourge of Armeggedon, Dissolution of Eternity or Malice? because i can't a message appears saying sometihng about a Bit Code i think what that is the color bit of ZQuake
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Post by kayge on Jun 23, 2006 22:13:48 GMT 1
I run Scourge of Armeggedon and Dissolution of Eternity with no problems. If I remember correctly, Malice was a problem, but I don't remember what the problem was. I can try it again later tonight when I have some time and let you know.
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Post by mr.chockuls on Jun 23, 2006 22:24:54 GMT 1
OK I can try it later if they run correctly i say you
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Post by kayge on Jun 24, 2006 5:40:54 GMT 1
Malice gives me an error: "Texture % is not 16 aligned".
Xmen: Rages of the Apocolypse gives me the same error.
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Post by angel on Jun 24, 2006 12:49:34 GMT 1
Oh, this looks cool. I have to try it out :-) BTW: Did you found any good more real style mod? Something which plays in a real world enviroment and makes a kind of half-life out of it? We can consider a new port in the next weeks then if you work on it ;D Time to prepare the paypal accounts  |
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Post by metaview on Jun 24, 2006 13:27:34 GMT 1
Well I thought the mods already work out of the box :-) But I will have a look into Malice and Xmen. Maybe I can get them to run.
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Post by kayge on Jun 24, 2006 15:37:24 GMT 1
I like the mods and have experimented with lots for zDoom and Duke3D. It seems that they can be hit or miss. In other words, some work and some just don't.
If there is something you can do for Malice and Xmen, that would be great though. Xmen looks VERY interesting.
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Post by mr.chockuls on Jun 24, 2006 21:56:15 GMT 1
anyone can help me? what i need loadind a mod?in the folder?
because when i load the nehara mod a message appears saying me about a GFX wad archive then my palm crashes
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Post by kayge on Jun 24, 2006 22:29:30 GMT 1
For Nehahra, create a Nehahra folder in zQuake. Place your pak0.pak, pak1.pak, and pak2.pak files in this folder. There was also a folder called "mod". I placed in this in my Nehahra folder (Idon't know if its needed or not, but it works on my Zire72).
Take note, that the pak0.pak is zipped. This one has to be unzipped and is only about 1kb big.
So, in the end you have a folder called "Nehahra" in your zQuake folder on your SD card. This Nehahra folder contains:
pak0.pak
pak1.pak
pak2.pak
mod (folder) containing 10 files with .xm at the end 1 file with .s3m.
Go into zQuake on your palm and launch the Nehahra folder. Once you are in the game watching the quake demo, bring down the console and type "map nehstart"
That's what I did and it works. Good Luck.
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Post by metaview on Jun 25, 2006 9:01:08 GMT 1
kayge: Xmen just crashes on my T3. How did you managed to get this error message?
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Post by kayge on Jun 25, 2006 14:50:06 GMT 1
For me the game begins to launch. I get an Xmen background and then that Texture% error displays and freezes my Palm. Happens every time.
Oh and I'm on a Zire72.
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Post by mr.chockuls on Jun 27, 2006 6:46:43 GMT 1
like in malice.
kayge: my nehahra still in error but what i need in my ZQuake directory? i need the full game? or something runing soft-machine? because i have in my sd 1GB the nehahra and in my 256kb sd the quake's full game
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Post by kayge on Jun 27, 2006 12:34:17 GMT 1
Nehahra and the full Quake game must be on the same SD card. Nehahra is not a stand-alone game, it is a modification of the original Quake game and requires the full registered version of Quake to run.
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Post by mr.chockuls on Jun 27, 2006 17:26:14 GMT 1
ok thanks
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Post by ldnoo on Jul 12, 2006 5:36:49 GMT 1
Anything new about the xmen version? I have the full version and never have time to play it at the house since i'm always on the move. thanks
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Post by metaview on Jul 12, 2006 7:54:34 GMT 1
No, sorry, no update on the Xmen stuff yet.
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Post by veggie on Jul 12, 2006 17:31:21 GMT 1
So does nehahra currently work with zquake? do the movies work? if yes i need help in getting it to run. if no, metaview, please save my life by making this miracle work.
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also i tried to set up mods for quake but none of them work. is there a guide anywhere cuz i couldn't find one?
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Post by hawkeyefile on Jul 13, 2006 1:19:11 GMT 1
hey metaview, i'd like to see quake2, it CAN run, dont know how well, i have a Tungsten T5 wich is the most fast pda palmone has made. ill donate much more money if it works good (at least 15 frames).
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Post by metaview on Jul 13, 2006 9:43:18 GMT 1
About quake2: I'm just tried to do a quick Hexen 2 port and the results are rather disappointing. Beside the fact that it misses actually some file from the wad, it does start and goes until the game starts but the big problem is memory. Hexen 2 is based on Quake 1 engine, but enhanced and takes almost 14 MB dynamic memory. It is ok for the T3 or the Zod in connection with UDMH but will never work on any current device, T5 included. The T5 might have a fast processor, but has the worst memory available. You have a hard time to run ZDoomZ and this is easy even for the TX. Forget about anything like Quake 2 or even an enhanced Quake 1 engine. And because the device doesn't have enought real memory at all, even UDMH or moving things to Storage doesn't help. It's like a Pentium 4 with 64 MB memory...
About the mods: no update here, sorry.
Regards
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Post by kayge on Jul 13, 2006 12:15:57 GMT 1
Veggie:
Nehahra (the game) works, but the movie does not.
As for all Quake mods, just put the pak files into a folder in the Palm/Programs/ZQuake folder.
So for the original Quake game you have the pak files in the "ID1" folder. Then for Nehahra you put the pak files in a folder called, say "Nehahra". You will then see "Nehahra" in your ZQuake launcher on your Palm. Simply choose Nehahra and launch.
I gave alittle more detail in regards to Nehahra and how to start the game already in this thread. Also a quick list of mods that worked for me is noted a little earlier in this thread.
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Post by veggie on Jul 13, 2006 17:56:47 GMT 1
thanx. That's exactly what i did but every time i try to load a mod it either brings me to the original game, OR it shows the intro to the mod i.e airquake and then brings me to the original game but doesn't allow me to move.
i've tried everthing including bringing up the console and typyng a command i.e. for beyond belief "map bbstart".
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