Crash After Menu?

[yamabigdog]

Every ROM, no matter what, once I go into the menu screen, when I try to resume game, it crashes everytime =-( Am I the only one experiencing these problems? Sorry to only post negative, but sofar the look of the menu is the best new feature, all ROMS seem to be running terribly slow with default config(I cant change anything or it crashes)

I am using 2.0 firmware
Fanjitas Eloader 0.97 with eMenu--01

PLEASE HELP!

[master1motoko]

why don't you just downgrade?

[shame13]

whats with the "just downgrade" you respond to every one?

[yamabigdog]

Dude, I've had a 1.5 psp and it sucks because you can't play any good psp games. Noone's gonna keep the PSP a 1.5 forever just for a handful of emu's. Along with the fact, no browser. Upgrading to 2.0 is a no brainer. I have the old versions of SNES 9xtyl, and 0.2c still runs the best. I figured afterthe 0.3 release it would be better, but seems to have gotten slower, and buggier. =-(

Sad considering this emu was in the Top 5 of PSP homebrew.

[liquidtenmillion]

whats with the "just downgrade" you respond to every one?

He's an idiot. That's the only explanation.

People like him should be shot and brutally murdered in public to set an example for the others who would do what he does.

So pointless, so stupid. Why don't you just contribute to the thread a real answer instead? Maybe he doesn't want to upgrade. He did not ask you to respond to his question with another question, he wants an answer to his problem. And he wants it within the terms he provides.

God d**nit...


But back on topic, use .3 USER edition, set it to 44khz sound, and then from there it will be fine.

[yamabigdog]

Oh well I will always have love for the TYL team. 0.2c is a sweet program, and I will probably have it for as long as I own my PSP. Thanks for all the hardwork guys, but I think you can only fix stuff so much before it's time to move on.

[yamabigdog]

I won't say .03 was a total failure, as a couple faster paced games do get a 10-20 FPS bump. But ALOT of the older titles had the weirdest lag when certain sprites/actions happened onscreen. 0.2c did not have this lag. So I have kept both versions on my mem stick. But this one, as it stands is basically useless because it crashes.

I have been so excited about this new release, I even offered my help/support to beta test. Checkin his homepage many times daily, and the forums. I was so happy when I saw it was released. Now I'm just left kinda speechless.

[shame13]

they have worked hard to try to make the emulation much better, and they have done it for 1.5. but every release isnt perfect. in time an with patience im sure .4 standard will have the kinks worked out, hopefully. i have faith in the team, after all they made the homebrew that i use most. and i am very thankful

[yamabigdog]

1.5 is such a copout. Thanks to Fanjita they have homebrew working on up to 2.6. Continuously working on old code (1.0,1.5) is just slowing down the homebrew scene. I understand they have more tools and stuff to workwith on 1.x's but its pointless. Supposedly .03 was perfect on a 1.x PSP. GREAT JOB!! now let's move on. Theres newer firmware with homebrew capabilities. Should really concentrate on 2.x+ cuz soon there won't be any homebrew access at all. Then all this hardwork will be with the handful of people who are too stubborn to play anything newer.

SONY SUCKS!

[coolmatty]

yamabigdog said:

1.5 is such a copout. Thanks to Fanjita they have homebrew working on up to 2.6. Continuously working on old code (1.0,1.5) is just slowing down the homebrew scene. I understand they have more tools and stuff to workwith on 1.x's but its pointless. Supposedly .03 was perfect on a 1.x PSP. GREAT JOB!! now let's move on. Theres newer firmware with homebrew capabilities. Should really concentrate on 2.x+ cuz soon there won't be any homebrew access at all. Then all this hardwork will be with the handful of people who are too stubborn to play anything newer.

SONY SUCKS!

4.1 is there for you people who bothered to upgrade/bought too late.

Also, 2.0+ will never see ME sound emulation, as that requires a lot of kernel-level access to pull off, which simply isn't available in usermode.

[shame13]

well im not fortunate enought to have 1.5.....i have a 2.01, and im currently running TYL.3, i love it. and until .4 is fixxed, i will continue to run it. and with out fanjita and crew i couldnt even do that. but i think the 1.5 will be the base of homebrew. due to the fact that 2.01+ cant get to the kernel.

[zshadow]

yamabigdog said:

1.5 is such a copout. Thanks to Fanjita they have homebrew working on up to 2.6. Continuously working on old code (1.0,1.5) is just slowing down the homebrew scene. I understand they have more tools and stuff to workwith on 1.x's but its pointless. Supposedly .03 was perfect on a 1.x PSP. GREAT JOB!! now let's move on. Theres newer firmware with homebrew capabilities. Should really concentrate on 2.x+ cuz soon there won't be any homebrew access at all. Then all this hardwork will be with the handful of people who are too stubborn to play anything newer.

SONY SUCKS!

What is the benefit of moving to a newer firmware? 2.x does not allow full access to the PSP hardware, not good for developers who want to utilize every aspect of the hardware.

New firmware revisions also have more bloat (crappy web browser, links2 on 1.5 is better).

if playing all the latest games is your thing, MPH is working on creating a new 100% firmware loader for 1.5. It will load a complete firmware without modifing your flash0 at all.

[sandman53]

yamabigdog said:

Dude, I've had a 1.5 psp and it sucks because you can't play any good psp games. Noone's gonna keep the PSP a 1.5 forever just for a handful of emu's. Along with the fact, no browser. Upgrading to 2.0 is a no brainer. I have the old versions of SNES 9xtyl, and 0.2c still runs the best. I figured afterthe 0.3 release it would be better, but seems to have gotten slower, and buggier. =-(

Sad considering this emu was in the Top 5 of PSP homebrew.

Actually a browser was released for 1.5 firmwire not to long ago. People say its faster than Sony's browser...

Also you can play practically on 1.5 if you know how to do it.

If we design stuff for usermode specifically, it will never reach teh full capacity that it could.

[liquidtenmillion]

Faster maybe, but it supports almost none of the web standards. It renders everything poorly, as it's based on links, which is quite old and designed for text based unix environments with 8 MB of ram.

It runs fast, but it draws every page incorrectly, and it supports practically nothing.

Not to mention VSH mode is perfectly attainable in 2.01+. Just not yet, not with the current exploits. It may happen in 2.7 or in 3.0.

Also not to mention that when sony releases the PSX emulation capabilities, i will upgrade BOTH my 1.5 machine and my 2.6 machine to 3.0, as Final Fantasy 7, Final Fantasy 8, Chrono Cross, Metal Gear Solid, and Xenogears are FAR better than any homebrew that has been created so far.

SNES is good, but every good game on SNES was also re-released to the PSX. In my opinion that is, and there are many people who believe the same as me, and who would upgrade to 3.0.

Therefore, if homebrew is to stay alive in the coming months, it is necessary for the developers to make homebrew that works in User mode a priority, and make homebrew that works in VSH mode an extra, not the other way around, because soon there will be few people using 1.5.

[manias]

liquidtenmillion said:

Faster maybe, but it supports almost none of the web standards. It renders everything poorly, as it's based on links, which is quite old and designed for text based unix environments with 8 MB of ram.

It runs fast, but it draws every page incorrectly, and it supports practically nothing.

Not to mention VSH mode is perfectly attainable in 2.01+. Just not yet, not with the current exploits. It may happen in 2.7 or in 3.0.

Also not to mention that when sony releases the PSX emulation capabilities, i will upgrade BOTH my 1.5 machine and my 2.6 machine to 3.0, as Final Fantasy 7, Final Fantasy 8, Chrono Cross, Metal Gear Solid, and Xenogears are FAR better than any homebrew that has been created so far.

SNES is good, but every good game on SNES was also re-released to the PSX. In my opinion that is, and there are many people who believe the same as me, and who would upgrade to 3.0.

Therefore, if homebrew is to stay alive in the coming months, it is necessary for the developers to make homebrew that works in User mode a priority, and make homebrew that works in VSH mode an extra, not the other way around, because soon there will be few people using 1.5.

exploits for 2.7+ would be nice too...

[liquidtenmillion]

They are likely too.

There has never, EVER been a piece of software that has not had a critical bug in it. It's just that people aren't really looking for them very hard right now, because we have the GTA exploit, which "works well enough", so it's not so urgent to find one that works perfectly.

[Cheeezy]

ARGHH Dont you people understand that with 1.5 you can do everything that any other firmware could do?

[zshadow]

cheeezy said:

ARGHH Dont you people understand that with 1.5 you can do everything that any other firmware could do?

I dont think they do, even the PS1 emulator that everyone is saying they will upgrade for, will be hacked to run on 1.5. almost every PSP game that is "worth playing" can be ran via RunUMD.

[drpooper]

hahaha...did you guys hear britney spears is pregnant again, oops, she did it again?!?!?! I know this is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY off topic but that seems to be the norm in the post...

[shame13]

?.......who cares?

[skeldwar]

cheeezy said:

ARGHH Dont you people understand that with 1.5 you can do everything that any other firmware could do?

ha ha, I am scratching my head in disbelief when I hear people ask what the point of 1.50 firmware is. It is now possible to play almost ALL NEW COMMERCIAL GAMES on a 1.50. I have a 1.50 PSP and I can play Lemmings, Worms, Siphon Filter, Daxter, Gradius Portable, Ys Ark of Napishtim, and I can go on and on.

1.50 is the ultimate PSP firmware. I'm not trying to sound like a 1.50 fanboy and bash 2.00+ people. I think anyone who is part of the PSP homebrew scene is family no matter what version firmware.

Time will show that with 1.50, so much cool things can be possible.

[liquidtenmillion]

The PSX emulator will be an encrypted binary, and encrypted very well at that. Look at loco Roco. Can you play loco roco on 1.5?

No.

You know why? It's encrypted well. It would take millions of computers billions of years to crack the encryption key through brute force.

You will NEVER be able to use the psx emulator on 1.5. Nor will you get native AVC support, which is the most powerful codec in existence, nor will you get all the new framerates that 2.6 supports for AVC video, nor will you be able to use Memory sticks above 2GB in 1.5(4 in 2.6, 8 in 2.7).

2.6 does EVERYTHING that 1.5 can do, except better. The ONLY thing that 2.6 can't do that many developers attempt to do is write to flash(which is incredibly dangerous) and use the 2nd processor. Which i can completely live without.

[manias]

let's just hope 2.7+ will be eloadered somehow

[yamabigdog]

So anyways back to original topic post can we get an explanation here? Seems I'm not only one looking around at a few other posts....

[zshadow]

liquidtenmillion said:

The PSX emulator will be an encrypted binary, and encrypted very well at that. Look at loco Roco. Can you play loco roco on 1.5?

No.

You know why? It's encrypted well. It would take millions of computers billions of years to crack the encryption key through brute force.

You will NEVER be able to use the psx emulator on 1.5. Nor will you get native AVC support, which is the most powerful codec in existence, nor will you get all the new framerates that 2.6 supports for AVC video, nor will you be able to use Memory sticks above 2GB in 1.5(4 in 2.6, 8 in 2.7).

2.6 does EVERYTHING that 1.5 can do, except better. The ONLY thing that 2.6 can't do that many developers attempt to do is write to flash(which is incredibly dangerous) and use the 2nd processor. Which i can completely live without.

i don't understand you..

first of all we don't need the encryption keys (1.5 runs unsigned code!), only decryption which can be retrieved with some work we have decryption keys upto 2.5, 2.6 and above will follow soon.

AVC video is running about 3/4 the native res of the PSP. PMP mod has much better quality if you are watching in full screen, because any AVC video will be streched because it wasn't encoded in 480x272, making the quality somewhat less than average, and useless in my view. PMP mod will also be able to support full res avc video once the hardware function to decode avc video is found. Sony themselves could enable it with a new firmware, but I dont like waiting for Sony ;D

many developers do not attempt to write to flash0 .. it is very dangerous, where do you get that many devs do write to flash.. not true at all.

you will see that PS1 emulator work on a 1.5.. trust me

and also .. my friend has a 4GB stick and uses 1.5.. works fine, its possible that the 8GB sticks may not work, but we will see

it seems to me you are jealous of 1.5 owners.. if not, why make up lies about 2.6 saying how much better it is..

[skeldwar]

liquidtenmillion said:

You will NEVER be able to use the psx emulator on 1.5. Nor will you get native AVC support, which is the most powerful codec in existence, nor will you get all the new framerates that 2.6 supports for AVC video, nor will you be able to use Memory sticks above 2GB in 1.5(4 in 2.6, 8 in 2.7).

Yeah, I'm not buying that either. 4GB PRO Duo memory cards work fine in 1.50 PSP's. And even if 8GB memory cards don't work, 4GB is plenty for the most part. I don't know what you mean when you talk about "NEW" framerates that 2.6 AVC video supports. I use a 1.50 PSP and with MPH Firmware Launcher 1.4 I can play AVC video with no problems.

I don't want any battles breaking out over which firmware versions are superior or inferior. That will only be counter-productive to the scene. It just happens to be my strong opinion that 1.50 firmware is the ideal firmware for homebrew & homebrew development.

Even if the SONY PSX EMU does not work on 1.50 firmware, It is not all unlikely that a homebrew PSOne Emulator may be released.

Another thing that everyone should be aware of is that MPH has scrapped his Game Loader project and has been working on a fully capable Firmware Loader. Meaning full codec support, full game support, etc. etc. So if he is successful, us 1.50 users can load up firmware 3.0 to play Sony's PSX EMU and commercial UMD games, etc. Then when we are done, we can reset back to 1.50 firmware and homebrew heaven.

So my plea to everyone who has a 1.51, 1.52, & 2.00 PSP is to downgrade to 1.50. And anyone looking to buy a PSP, look for a 1.50 - 2.00. The reason being is because once you upgrade there is no going back. But if you wait patiently with 1.50 firmware, it may be possible for 1.50 firmware to do everything a 2.70 or 3.0 firmware can. And the more 1.50 PSP's there are, the better.

1.5 - spread the joy

[liquidtenmillion]

That's stupid.

There was "no going back" for 2.0 also. There IS going back. Hell, if not thorugh an exploit you can go back manually and reflash the motherboard manually. But that's not even needed, as there WILL be an exploit eventually, as soon as people start to work on them.

Besides, you can't just "load firmware" like that. You have to crack the firmware first. You will not just be able to load 2.7 on your 1.5 PSP through any firmware loader. The only reason you could even consider loading 2.00+ on a 1.5 PSP is because there is already homebrew on those machines, and there are ways to get the files off of the PSP. You cannot do that on 2.7+. PERIOD. The update eboots are encrypted binaries, which cannot be decrypted, at least not in our lifetimes, or that of our children. You can only copy firmware by copying the files that it installs manually. You cannot do this unless you can read flash0 on a PSP. You cannot do this normally, not without homebrew softwar.e This means that homebrew software will have to be available.

Not to mention you can't load an encrypted eboot through ANY kind of launcher except the actual XMB. In other words, this firmware launcher will work. Maybe for 2.00-2.6 . But then again, it'll still take up RAM, and it will be less worth that the trouble it causes.

[zshadow]

liquidtenmillion said:

That's stupid.

There was "no going back" for 2.0 also. There IS going back. Hell, if not thorugh an exploit you can go back manually and reflash the motherboard manually. But that's not even needed, as there WILL be an exploit eventually, as soon as people start to work on them.

Besides, you can't just "load firmware" like that. You have to crack the firmware first. You will not just be able to load 2.7 on your 1.5 PSP through any firmware loader. The only reason you could even consider loading 2.00+ on a 1.5 PSP is because there is already homebrew on those machines, and there are ways to get the files off of the PSP. You cannot do that on 2.7+. PERIOD. The update eboots are encrypted binaries, which cannot be decrypted, at least not in our lifetimes, or that of our children. You can only copy firmware by copying the files that it installs manually. You cannot do this unless you can read flash0 on a PSP. You cannot do this normally, not without homebrew softwar.e This means that homebrew software will have to be available.

Not to mention you can't load an encrypted eboot through ANY kind of launcher except the actual XMB. In other words, this firmware launcher will work. Maybe for 2.00-2.6 . But then again, it'll still take up RAM, and it will be less worth that the trouble it causes.

I won't comment on the first part.. that is totally off base..

RAM is not an issue, it will unload the 1.5 modules and reboot the 2.x firmware from the MS

and also

once MPH releases this loader, it could be possible to patch the modules for loading homebrew, so, for example, you could have a 1.5 loading 2.5 firmware running homebrew without GTA

(see nokxploit for 1.5 to see what I mean).