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Post by squidler80 on May 16, 2005 22:29:30 GMT 1
I was just wondering what palm is the fastest for playing snes emulator and Genesis Emulator? And just wondering what kinda fps i would get with the fastest unit like with frameskip 0 or 1. Any feedback would be much apprciated.  |
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Post by Tinnus on May 16, 2005 23:00:06 GMT 1
Tungsten T3 and T5 are currently the fastest; I believe you can run Genesis and SNES fullspeed with sound maybe with frameskip 0 or 1 (no smoothing).
People with T3's or T5's please help me here by provind more precise statistics.
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Post by JJesusfreak01 on May 17, 2005 1:43:09 GMT 1
Tungsten T3 and T5 are currently the fastest; I believe you can run Genesis and SNES fullspeed with sound maybe with frameskip 0 or 1 (no smoothing). People with T3's or T5's please help me here by provind more precise statistics. What about the Zodiac? It uses some hardware acceleration for playback, doesnt it? The Tungsten C would also be really fast, but it will not be able to do widescreen landscape. |
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Post by Tinnus on May 17, 2005 2:20:38 GMT 1
The Zodiac is only 200MHz (can overclock to 240) and the video chip really doesn't help much. The T3 is at 400MHz (overclockable to 600).
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Post by PyroOrip on May 18, 2005 2:39:10 GMT 1
The T3 (which is what I own currently) has a 400 Mhz processor on normal, and overclocked, my LJP reaches up to 600 while working correctly. I can play all games EXCEPT for FF3 at full speed. I THINK ff3 is just slow in general, because all of my other games are just fine. Either that, or FF# requires like a lot of ram or something crazy.  I don't recommend a T5, I've heard horrid things about them left and right. The Tungsten T3 is an awesome machine. : D |
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Post by wantan on May 18, 2005 3:39:20 GMT 1
well... I previously had a T3... now I have a T5...
Things are not so terrible as you say... and read this: Battery life is longer in T5... so if you're aiming for playing battery life is a key factor.
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Post by helix7 on May 18, 2005 17:09:10 GMT 1
The Tungsten C would also be really fast, but it will not be able to do widescreen landscape. Are people with landscape-capable Palms actually using the landscape mode for LJP? How do you handle the controls in landscape mode? And regarding the topic in question, I personally use a Zire72, and have only had problems with SNES. And Genesis runs well, but only without sound. If emulation is a big part of what you'll use your Palm for, go for a faster one than the Zire72. It'll run, but other people seem to get better results from the Ts. |
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Post by nicojarre on May 22, 2005 13:03:21 GMT 1
Hello! I'd like to know.. Only the speed of the processor is important right?
So on a sony clié tg50 which is 200mhz, is this processor sufficiant to run snes at maxi 2frameskip with sound?
And another thing, is there a difference in performance between Intel Xcale an Arm processor at equal speed?
Thanks!
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Post by HD19 on May 23, 2005 5:11:15 GMT 1
It may not be the best, but even us broke people with the T|E can run snes games at a comfortable speed with a low framskip FF2 for example keeps me occupied, and it runs perfecftly with frameskip of 1 (overclocked of course) so anyone who is higher than 192mhz can do fine even if it isnt overclocked.
By the way, FF3 IS slow for some reason... must be the ram
speaking of clocks, has anyone gotten clocktower for the snes to work?
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Post by tcarlucci on May 23, 2005 14:32:07 GMT 1
Don't forget about new LifeDrive, that has 416Mhz, if I don't make a mistake.
Sorry my English, I'm Brazilian
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Post by Tinnus on May 23, 2005 18:18:17 GMT 1
Oh great he have one more brazilian here! ;D Bem vindo!  |
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Post by wantan on May 23, 2005 22:40:28 GMT 1
Well... Maybe you can say another Latinamerican here... Bienvenido! |
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Post by junglemike on May 25, 2005 17:26:07 GMT 1
Battery life of T5 maybe longer, but you NEED to buy and install UDMH since T5 has 3 times smaller dynamic heap than T3 - if you want to play Sega and Snes games.
So T5 is double-sided coin
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Post by musicenthusiast on May 26, 2005 6:07:40 GMT 1
how much (in dollars) does the T3 cost?
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Post by Tinnus on May 26, 2005 12:42:36 GMT 1
According to www.palmone.com/us/products/ , the T5 costs $399 and the T3 appears to be discontinued. Although you should find it in shops... maybe around $370 or so. |
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Post by wilef on May 26, 2005 17:48:42 GMT 1
I used to own the T3 and can vouche for it's excellent speed and ability to play each emulated system at full speed. However, I decided to sacrifice some speed and get a Zodiac 1 for the better gaming layout. The speed hit isn't that substantial, I really only noticed a significant difference in Zelda for Gameboy. The T3 is no good for games other than RPGs. It's almost unplayable with games like Mario Bros. So it depends on what you want to play.
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Post by Tinnus on May 26, 2005 18:36:44 GMT 1
Although the T5 buttons are halfway decent for emulation (I own a T|E which buttons are placed the same way), it's not a ZOdiac but it is playable. A little awkward to press the tiny buttons but you get used to it It's just too awkward for some SNES action games (ie. Mario Bros.) which use A, B, X and Y. But I think the T|E / T|T5 have the best button layout among all Palm devices except Zodiac. |
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Post by snempaa on Jun 13, 2005 0:01:54 GMT 1
I think the T|C is really fine for LJP (and it has a full keyboard too, but it's not (jet) supported). It's got really nice battery life because of the wifimodule (eats battery so they put in a stronger battery). It has got a 400mhz processor, which can be overclocked to 600, but the games run faster when you over clock it with a bigger busspeed and let it run at 530mhz (265 x 2 at lightspeed). SNES emulation works perfect without sound with asm core and is still playable with C core and sound ON (but a little slow). So my vote goes to the T|C ps. Someone should product a (snes) controller that plugs onto the palm universal connector;) pps. It's also quite cheap second hand these days! (Discontinued product) ppps. It has got one more configurable button, because LJP recognizes the full keyboard as one button (until it's fully supported ofcourse) |
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Post by iamwrong on Jun 16, 2005 9:39:24 GMT 1
I owned a Z72,I can play snes games with it well. TT3's inside battery life is too short for playing games. TT5 is awesome in stability.
I am from china and like this bbs. I hope I can learn more about PALM games and make many friends here.
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Post by StuBee on Jun 16, 2005 17:41:34 GMT 1
I have to disagree with earlier posts recommending the TC for LJP.
The reason is that the TC when running LJP has a huge slowdown issue when any key or directional pad is pressed. Although the games run a lot better with sound off, other models of palms don't require this, and without sound it does take away from the fun of the games.
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Post by Tinnus on Jun 16, 2005 18:14:51 GMT 1
Let's just not argue with sound off taking away the fun; that's personal opinion. |
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Post by StuBee on Jun 17, 2005 1:49:47 GMT 1
True...Didn't mean to argue. But I thought the original poster,and any other readers, might find it useful info (re: TC slowdown) especially if their decision of which Palm model to purchase is based on running LJP to it's maximum potential. |
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Post by Tinnus on Jun 17, 2005 20:49:18 GMT 1
Of course, I was not meaning to make little of your point The T|C slowdown is among the worst problems we have... |
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