Area51official
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Post by Area51official on Jul 7, 2005 23:09:36 GMT 1
I guest first question is that even possible on Palm? And would you guys even consider doing a module for it? I long for the day to be able to play FF7 on my handheld...
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Post by Tinnus on Jul 8, 2005 0:00:09 GMT 1
No, no, no. 90% chance it would be too slow to be worth it. Just take a look at GBA.
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Post by Area51official on Jul 10, 2005 6:36:16 GMT 1
Shoulda guessed that. Worth a shot though. Only reason I thought there might be a shot was due to how you guys ported Quake 1 so well.
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Post by Tinnus on Jul 10, 2005 13:26:39 GMT 1
Yeah but Quake was ported from code so it's a native port. PSOne would have to be emulated.
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Post by angel on Jul 10, 2005 18:02:54 GMT 1
Amazing how the pocket pc have a "nearly full speed" emulator and everybody say ps1 cant be emulated on palm... I guess memory construction is a good part of the problem ? (because the processors are the same speed). EDIT : sorry i mean PS1...  |
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Post by metaview on Jul 10, 2005 18:19:41 GMT 1
Does it? ps2 full speed on PoPC? Where could one find it?
IMHO, almost everything which can run on a PoPC can run quite the same speed on Palm OS, only drawback is you have not more than 10 Meg RAM to play with.
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Post by Tinnus on Jul 10, 2005 18:23:36 GMT 1
Ive seen a PS1 emulator for PoPC but unfortunately not open source.
Maybe if someone asked them kindly to get the code and port to PalmOS... as freeware, closed-source too. (which means outside LJP since it's GPL)
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Post by angel on Jul 10, 2005 18:51:09 GMT 1
Sorry, edited my post, its PS1 fpsece emulator based on fpse emulator, i dont know if core is open source or not... original core : it.geocities.com/fpseemulator/main.htmpocket pc port : www.fpsece.net/index.htmlI tested ff7 & ridge racer on my Asus A620 and the work pretty well, news are about a .95 version nearly full speed and a 1.0 coming soon which beta tester tells about its great compatibility and speed. |
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Post by metaview on Jul 10, 2005 19:20:02 GMT 1
wow, it even has an amiga port. Looks like someone should ask for the sources. Maybe one with a PSOne, I don't have one :-)
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Post by Tinnus on Jul 10, 2005 20:07:22 GMT 1
Well, I do... or did  Someone did me the favor of breaking it... but I have some good games  |
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Post by metaview on Jul 10, 2005 20:55:46 GMT 1
Tinnus,
ok, I ask him. Let's see, if I get the source and how much work it will be.
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Post by Tinnus on Jul 11, 2005 1:20:20 GMT 1
So, in case you get it... contact me if you need some 'testing material'  |
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Post by musicenthusiast on Jul 11, 2005 1:44:02 GMT 1
wait whats the difference between PSone and the first playstation?
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Post by Tinnus on Jul 11, 2005 1:48:00 GMT 1
In the system, nothing. PSOne is the compact version.
Kinda like the GBA compared to the GBA SP, the system is the same but the outside changes a little.
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Post by musicenthusiast on Jul 11, 2005 7:55:41 GMT 1
so why dont you just refer to it as a playstation emulator rather then a PSone emulator
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Post by Tinnus on Jul 11, 2005 12:55:35 GMT 1
Who knows? I'm not the one who created the thread  But maybe because PSOne is shprter |
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Area51official
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Post by Area51official on Jul 12, 2005 1:50:50 GMT 1
Maybe just PSX then. That kinda sound cool that way, and its nice and short. Well its promising to hear about the possibility of this, considering there is a PPC version, but I guess that's a ways off.
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Post by jbp on Jul 12, 2005 4:44:24 GMT 1
If it's possible, you're gonna need a *lot* of storage.
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Post by darkschneider on Jul 13, 2005 17:35:56 GMT 1
How much RAM the PSX had  4 Mb I think the problem would be the ISO files... anyways thanks god for my 1Gb SD card |
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Post by linksmask1 on Jul 14, 2005 3:14:58 GMT 1
Playstation emulation on palm would be awesome. Controls and the size of the iso's would be hard though, not to mention everything else, but good luck to anyone who up to the task.
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Post by suntiger on Jul 15, 2005 20:52:04 GMT 1
Yeah but Quake was ported from code so it's a native port. PSOne would have to be emulated. True, look at SNES DOOM on LJP vs ZDoomZ. However, isn't it possible to port FF7's PC version straight over?Or is that hard/illegal because the source hasn't been released? |
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Post by Tinnus on Jul 16, 2005 1:06:36 GMT 1
It's not hard or illegal. It's impossible. 'Porting' consists of getting the source code and 'compiling' it to another platform. It's not like renaming from EXE to PRC or something ;D You cannot port something without the original source code. |
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Post by suntiger on Jul 16, 2005 1:16:42 GMT 1
It's not hard or illegal. It's impossible. 'Porting' consists of getting the source code and 'compiling' it to another platform. It's not like renaming from EXE to PRC or something ;D You cannot port something without the original source code. Yes, I knew that. I am somewhat of a programmer myself, ya know. What I do not know is whether there is a way to extract ASM or at least binary source code from the original program. Guess not, but saying so without implying that I'm a moronic clod would have sufficed. |
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Post by Area51official on Jul 16, 2005 4:32:55 GMT 1
How much RAM the PSX had 4 Mb I think the problem would be the ISO files... anyways thanks god for my 1Gb SD card Are ISO files the equivalent of PSX roms? Forgive me I'm not too familiar with how PS emulation works. How much would a game like FF7 take up on a mem stick? I only have a 128mb right now, I do want to get the 1gb one eventually. Regarding the PC version of FF7, that doesn't seem like a bad idea either, but not sure how feasible that would be on the Palm platform. ~Shrugs~ I kinda miss that game now. I kinda liked it better than the PSX version, it seemed to have a few enhancements, if I recall. |
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Post by Tinnus on Jul 16, 2005 21:12:37 GMT 1
ISO is a CD image. Each FF7 ISO is ~600MB. But you could rip the movies and such (PPC people do that). suntiger: That's not possible because there's the x86 ASM (which the PCs use) and the ARM ASM (PalmOS 5 devices). Each architeture has it's own ASM; it's a direct programming language which means it's specific for the processor it was made too. What would be possible is to run a Windows app in Linux (for example), since the ASM is the same (ie: same platform). Actually that's exactly how Wine and such work. edit: oh and sorry if I offended you and sounded like I was calling you a moron (not the intention) It's just that we don't know the level of programming knowledge the person has, and sincerely, there were people saying "port Halo 2 to the Zodiac" so we must be prepared for that... |
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Post by suntiger on Jul 16, 2005 21:50:03 GMT 1
edit: oh and sorry if I offended you and sounded like I was calling you a moron (not the intention) It's just that we don't know the level of programming knowledge the person has, and sincerely, there were people saying "port Halo 2 to the Zodiac" so we must be prepared for that... Thanks for the apology. I agree with you on the Halo 2, anyone who says that *is* a moronic clod |
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Post by Skaaj on Jul 17, 2005 17:56:56 GMT 1
halo 2 on the zodiac.. that just made my day, hahaha
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Post by canto86 on Sept 20, 2005 21:59:06 GMT 1
So it is impossible to emulate playststion on the palm? What about dreamcast, N64, or any other newer systems? Also, is there any way you ppl who are good with computers could create a brain pool to try and create better programs for palm OS? I am a novice user on computers but no nothing about making or changing programs so I wouldn't be able to help you. I am sick and tired of pocket PC getting all the good stuff like age of empires and playstation emulators. As far as Im concerned Palm OS designers need to start haulin ass and getting newer and better stuff on the market. BTW, would there be any way for you guys to make a version of age of empires for palm OS?
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Post by wantan on Sept 20, 2005 23:48:48 GMT 1
Let dreamcast rest in peace... please!!! I still keep my unit... poor white unit... hehehehee....
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Post by Tinnus on Sept 21, 2005 1:12:38 GMT 1
canto86, you already created a topic for that, please do not post the same message twice. Next time I'll delete one of them.
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