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Post by drmario on Nov 20, 2007 22:04:11 GMT 1
I heard of this new mobile platform by google that will be released next year. It looks pretty cool with it being open and all but what caught my attention is that they are having a contest for the best application written for it with over $10 mil in prizes. With Tinnus saying that the code he is using for LJX can be easily ported over to other devices, he should try and get it running on this, he might even win one of the $100 000 prizes. The platform is completely open so it should work extremely good, might even be better than palm. An example of one of the application is a quake game that looks like is uses quake wad files, which from my understanding is pretty close to an emulator so it shouldn't be much of a problem for LJX. code.google.com/android/index.html
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Post by Tinnus on Nov 21, 2007 0:15:40 GMT 1
Now THAT is something COOL. And a big inspiration to speed LJX up. I'm definately going to look at it, right now. Thanks a lot!
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Post by tgwaste on Nov 21, 2007 1:48:10 GMT 1
why do I have a feeling you have to sign code rights over to them?
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Post by Tinnus on Nov 21, 2007 2:09:35 GMT 1
No, you don't. They only retain rights to use the name and images for showing off the OS, but the rights are still yours. Unfortunately it seems a no-go though, at least for now, since it's only possible to program in Java (at least officially, and I don't think they would accept something "hacked" in the competition )
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Post by tgwaste on Nov 21, 2007 2:10:58 GMT 1
doesnt really say much for the new device + os honestly.. seems rather limited
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Post by _Em on Nov 21, 2007 18:15:16 GMT 1
It's "limited for your protection"... They run everything in a VM so the underlying OS can't be compromised by rogue apps.
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Post by countbuggula on Nov 21, 2007 18:18:47 GMT 1
Gee....that sounds so iPhone-ish. Man...I was getting all excited about Android too.
That seems really odd...everything I'd read about Android was that it was going to be completely open and there would be no difference between Built-in and 3rd Party apps, and that every aspect or program would be replaceable.
So does that mean it's only really open to the carriers who want to customize the phone but closed to 3rd party developers?
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Post by Tinnus on Nov 21, 2007 20:25:16 GMT 1
No, it's open to whomever likes it, it's closed in the language sense, because it can "only" be programmed in Java (everything runs on top of a VM).
You can check the videos and see how it looks unresponsive. Check when he pans the webpage around how there's like a ~0.5s delay.
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Post by setsuna203 on Nov 22, 2007 9:40:08 GMT 1
Then again the Quake app was pretty responsive, don't you think?
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Post by Tinnus on Nov 22, 2007 23:40:58 GMT 1
No. It was pretty fast rendering, but that's pretty much it. We didn't see input coming through, and, besides, I'm fairly certain it has a hardware OpenGL|ES implementation.
Not feasible to emulate something over a VM, unless we'd be doing just GameBoy B/W or something.
Besides, the problems, not even that. All emulators and in C or C++, would require a major rewrite since they use pointers all over, and I just HATE Java.
If anyone wants to do a conversion of one/some of the emulators, be my guest.
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Post by _Em on Nov 23, 2007 0:08:25 GMT 1
It would probably make more sense to do a different project based around the already available Java emulators for various devices.
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