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Post by countbuggula on Mar 15, 2008 3:56:29 GMT 1
Tablet? You're not referring to the Foleo are you? Because they cancelled that, and it wasn't going to be able to run PalmOS programs anyway. Just native linux...and even that would have been very limited due to it running on an ARM processor.
I'm unaware of anything else that Palm's released (or said they were going to release) in the last several years that's resembled a tablet...
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Post by samphex on Mar 16, 2008 2:58:17 GMT 1
Tablet? You're not referring to the Foleo are you? Because they cancelled that, and it wasn't going to be able to run PalmOS programs anyway. Just native linux...and even that would have been very limited due to it running on an ARM processor. I'm unaware of anything else that Palm's released (or said they were going to release) in the last several years that's resembled a tablet... I gus he means nokia's tablet that can run Access? |
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Post by maxer on Mar 22, 2008 1:08:27 GMT 1
no no sorry, meant the folio ... and your right, only ran linux. was a weak implentation of a refreshing idea ...
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Post by samphex on Mar 22, 2008 21:26:53 GMT 1
just got a centro a few days ago... LJP works awesome on it.. even slightly better performance than the 680/650 How's the 5-way and overall button arrangement on the Centro for gaming? It's enough of a change from previous Treo models that I'm interested to learn how you like that aspect in LJP. at first it takes 1 or 2 days to learn to use the 5 way because the buttons or more combined. the hard buttons are excellent as A and B for GB games. the hard buttons can also be xyab and start select on the volume controls. The only thing that really sucks is that you caan not use instinct for having a button assigned to a key except for spacebar unless you are skinny. |
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Post by tgwaste on Mar 22, 2008 23:51:12 GMT 1
i completely disagree. i have very fat thumbs and I found the centro instantaneously comfortable and am currently using the keyboard for the abxy buttons as well as start/select quick save/load.
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Post by samphex on Mar 23, 2008 18:23:44 GMT 1
i completely disagree. i have very fat thumbs and I found the centro instantaneously comfortable and am currently using the keyboard for the abxy buttons as well as start/select quick save/load. rumors were that some centro's keyboards felt different. So...I don't know... |
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Post by contradude on Mar 28, 2008 18:41:30 GMT 1
do we ever think that we'll get 15% faster so that the zodiac will be a legit snes gaming platform? if I could just get another 5-7 fps on fs 3 on final fantasy 3, I could enjoy the great controls and expansive screen, versus leaving all options at default on my treo.
does anyone with a 755p/centro know of any good tweaks for ljp as far as settings?
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Post by icefire on Mar 28, 2008 19:44:40 GMT 1
I play snes just fine on the zodiac: here is what i use:
ASM core, fast sprites, transparency, frameskip 2.
Works fine for Super metroid, super mario world, more.
Mode 7 games are a bit slow. I use full screen with zodaic smoothing. Almost full speed.
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Post by _Em on Mar 29, 2008 0:01:29 GMT 1
Switch to frameskip 3 and you should be fine  |
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Post by icefire on Mar 29, 2008 0:25:22 GMT 1
Or turn of transparency...
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Post by samphex on Mar 29, 2008 5:12:52 GMT 1
overclocking max with lightspeed 3.0 solves EVERYTHING in snes. |
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Post by icefire on Mar 29, 2008 17:15:31 GMT 1
Im a bit scared of overclocking the zodiac... kinda hard to get a new one, and expensive.
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Post by contradude on Mar 29, 2008 20:56:45 GMT 1
don't worry about that icefire. I've been overclocking mine since january 06 and it still is in great shape. the important thing is to probably avoid overclocking hardcore while charging. I don't know what all of that heat would do in the zod case...
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Post by samphex on Mar 30, 2008 4:05:32 GMT 1
If it's kept at a max of 240 mhz you should be fine. Especially if you only use it in short periods. 240? My centro can handle 500 something and any lower than that gives lower performance quality in my chrono trigger. |
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Post by Tinnus on Mar 30, 2008 14:17:08 GMT 1
But the Zodiac CPU's default speed is 200  The Centro is probably underclocked to save battery. |
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Post by icefire on Mar 30, 2008 16:26:18 GMT 1
But it has the graphics card, which is around equal to 460mhz on the Treo 650, from super mario world speeds with smotthing and stretching.
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Post by samphex on Mar 30, 2008 18:28:58 GMT 1
But it has the graphics card, which is around equal to 460mhz on the Treo 650, from super mario world speeds with smotthing and stretching. Could you rephrase that? I can't understand that sentence... |
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Post by icefire on Mar 31, 2008 0:33:57 GMT 1
no, i guesstimated
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Post by Tinnus on Mar 31, 2008 5:08:33 GMT 1
The Zod's gfx card automatically makes the game stretch to the screen size and renders the image. Normal devices don't have this function, and they need to work harder to render, stretch, AND compute the other things that emulators do, while the Zod can do these at the same time because it has 2 (3 including the sound card) processors. And somehow, icefire has benchmarked this to a treo, and gotten 460. Just to make it a little more clear. The Zodiac has one CPU and one 2D graphics chip and one sound chip that can do some MIDI. The 2D chip has internal functions for drawing sprites (rectangles) with arbitrary sizes and possibly filtering, which is what LJZ/LJP/et al use. It does NOT do anything "automatically" in the proper sense, rather it does scaling/smoothing by hardware. |
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Post by _Em on Mar 31, 2008 16:49:27 GMT 1
The Centro uses the same Intel PXA270 520MHz processor as all Palm's other recent device releases AFAIK... it might even use the 624MHz version -- Palm has been using both in their devices for the past 4 or so years, underclocking as appropriate per-device.
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Post by icefire on Mar 31, 2008 17:19:12 GMT 1
Yikes. Guess i need a centro, my LJP settings are around 215 mhz, but 624!?!?
<sarcasm> Does that run Firestorm at full speed? </sarcasm>
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Post by _Em on Mar 31, 2008 21:58:10 GMT 1
My TX runs LJP at around 580MHz... but without the graphics co-processor that's a lot slower than it sounds. Firestorm still runs at 3fps  |
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Post by icefire on Apr 1, 2008 0:05:18 GMT 1
Zodiac firestorm: <0.5 fps with any frameskip, any config.
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Post by countbuggula on Apr 1, 2008 16:55:20 GMT 1
Firestorm's out, but I went from <.5 fps to 5-8 fps in psx4palm by overclocking my 755 to 580mhz
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Post by samphex on Apr 1, 2008 23:19:10 GMT 1
the max my centro can do max 585 mhz... and any firestorm gba game i try crashes it. it refuses to attempt gameplay... edit: I can't do anymore testing as my lightspeed trial ran out...(if anyone is nice enough they would buy me a version  |
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Post by tgwaste on Apr 2, 2008 0:10:18 GMT 1
im telling you.. its NOT really doing that speed go download speedy and check. |
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Post by countbuggula on Apr 2, 2008 18:06:19 GMT 1
im telling you.. its NOT really doing that speed go download speedy and check. Speedy isn't correctly registering actual speeds, based on real world tests. See this thread for details. Benchmarks have been performed using lightspeed at a wide variety of bus and clock speeds up to and including 585mhz, with verifiable results in a number of real-world applications. |
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Post by natepless on Apr 15, 2008 7:51:13 GMT 1
Im getting around 55-60 fps on most snes games on my centro, and im not overclocking, just dbcache, an unmemfrag.
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Post by samphex on Apr 16, 2008 3:34:51 GMT 1
Im getting around 55-60 fps on most snes games on my centro, and im not overclocking, just dbcache, an unmemfrag. I get that without any assistance of programs. |
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Post by natepless on Apr 16, 2008 3:42:01 GMT 1
Well i was getting that to for most games, but after these programs games that where running slow like super mario world 2 are a little more play able
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