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Post by Tinnus on Oct 16, 2006 13:05:31 GMT 1
Just for the record, the new home of the LJP website is at www.little-john.netThanks a lot to hansschmucker for the domain and stuff  |
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Post by angel on Oct 16, 2006 14:59:08 GMT 1
Great and thanks to hanschmucker ! Now you've got a nice place to put the updates in   |
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Post by tgwaste on Nov 8, 2006 19:36:52 GMT 1
thanks for the notification and youre welcome for the space. :/
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Post by Tinnus on Nov 12, 2006 1:28:15 GMT 1
Yeah, thanks for all Hans just did it for me, registered the domain, mirrored the website and added a bunch of cool stuff. And only told me after  Sorry... BTW ljp.twg.org seems to be gone? It's not that I'd want to kill it (assuming it was on purpose), one of the reasons because people still know that address. Also LJP 1.0 RC3 is nowhere to be found (in my PC that is) and the new website links to that. |
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Post by _Em on Nov 18, 2006 0:58:31 GMT 1
What I've done in the past is change the welcome page to a META redirect to the new site... that way, the search spiders pick up on the change of location, and anyone using old bookmarks picks up on it too. |
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Post by hansschmucker on May 14, 2007 2:30:52 GMT 1
Hi everybody... I know, a bit of a late reply... OK, first of all I created this after the LJP homepage had moved around so much that I had serious problems keeping track of it... I had just registered a domain for myself and had two to spare, so I registered it and set up a mirror for LJP as the official page kept disappearing. I didn't mean to "steal" the homepage from anybody, I just wanted to provide a mirror. After I set it up I emailed Tinnus, he thought it was neat and the rest is history. The reason I'm posting right now is that I'm trying to come up with a new design. Tinnus prefers the current version (as he says himself, he's not a big fan of gradiants) and I'm biased as well (of course) so we need a bit of unbiased feedback. Ultimatively it's Tinnus decision but maybe I can get some support for my case Here's a demo. Note that it doesn't display entirely correct in Internet Explorer, because of a bug in the image rendering (the colors are a little to dark), the links lead nowhere and the bottom bar is still missing, but still it should be enough to give you an idea on which you can base your feedback. little-john.net/demo/ |
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Post by needhelp on May 14, 2007 5:20:31 GMT 1
I gotta say that I think the demo is terrific. I really couldn't think of any big improvements, besides maybe adding a counter for the number of visitors. I'll let you know if I come up with anything. |
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Post by tgwaste on May 14, 2007 5:41:40 GMT 1
looks really nice hans. love seeing mario and sonic up top! |
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Post by countbuggula on May 14, 2007 6:00:49 GMT 1
Hmmm...it's a toss-up for me. I like the simple clean look of the old one (the one Tinnus likes) but this new demo looks very classy and stylish. Might attract more attention. It draws attention to the important buttons very nicely too.
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Post by _Em on May 14, 2007 7:56:08 GMT 1
Hmm... I personally think something in between the two would be neat... I like the title bar of the new site, but I prefer the navigation interface of the old one.
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Post by hansschmucker on May 14, 2007 13:18:08 GMT 1
needhelp: Thank you... if needed I can add a counter in no time (in fact there's already one there, just not visible tgwaste: Sonic and Mario are simply the best symbols for console gaming. The first game I've played was Super Mario Bros on my brother's C128, the first game I owned was Super Mario Land for GameBoy and the first game that I hooked up to my TV was Sonic the Hedgehog for Sega Master System. So anything else is out of the question for me. countbuggula: I'm not sure I'd call it classy (I think it looks rather childish, really), but it's definately stylish. And at least for me it's still very clean with a navigation that's even clearer than before. So the buttons are something that I'd really like to keep @_Em: Strangely enough, the title bar is the thing I like least... but we'll have to wait and see if somebody comes up with something better. As I said before, the highlights for me are the cleaner buttons.
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Post by hansschmucker on May 14, 2007 13:23:54 GMT 1
P.S. The number of unique visitors is usally somewhere between 100 and 200 per day.
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Post by hansschmucker on May 14, 2007 13:47:20 GMT 1
Another question: Do you think a bugtracker and a wiki would be helpfull?
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Post by vineds on May 14, 2007 14:00:03 GMT 1
I personally like the new page design. I think that the old page design is a little too basic
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Post by angel on May 14, 2007 14:31:57 GMT 1
The graphical is cool, really.
I would add a FAQ (with a (?) icone) , for the people who wants to see the most common problems and how to fix them without having to crawl the board and the tons of sticky thread.
- A shot "how to install" directive.
- The most common urls (db cache cleaner, udmh, and so on)
- The most common questions (crash, black screen of death, warm, soft, hard reset, ...)
I would also separate the "home" and "news" page (with a (!) icone). To read you have to scroll a lot, and you use only half of the website width, wich is not really easy to read.
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Post by hansschmucker on May 14, 2007 15:12:03 GMT 1
That's what I'd like the Wiki for... that way there would be an easy to maintain system for FAQs and the like.
About the News... I've just copied the content from the old page (and replacing the iframe with an include) so that's something that we can decide on lateron
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Post by angel on May 14, 2007 15:18:18 GMT 1
Its only ideas the site is nice "as it is". |
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Post by hansschmucker on May 14, 2007 16:01:50 GMT 1
I've set up a bugtracker at little-john.net/bugs/ I haven't really tested it yet, but if it works I think it can make things much easier. You have to signup to report issues, but it's really straightforward without any CAPTCHAs. Tinnus, Metaview just post here after registering, so I can promote you to Administrators. That way we wouldn't have bugreports spread all over the forum. |
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Post by hansschmucker on May 14, 2007 16:51:20 GMT 1
I've also set up a new version of MediaWiki over at little-john.net/wiki/ , so now we also need feedback on your willingness to use a bugtracker and a wiki! |
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Post by _Em on May 14, 2007 17:25:04 GMT 1
Hans, I'd suggest adding some more security to the wiki, or getting a dedicated wiki moderator. Every wiki I've been involved with has been hit by bots not too long after being set up. Captchas seem to stop most of them, but not all.
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Post by hansschmucker on May 14, 2007 17:40:29 GMT 1
Thanks for the advice, I'll look into it... BTW, I was editing the FAQ on NFS when somebody else decided to do the same thing... I guess that was you so I hope you noticed before writing te actual article.
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Post by _Em on May 14, 2007 18:12:18 GMT 1
I was in the middle of writing it actually... just got a 5-pager done, and saw you 'd written up a simplified version. So, I edited yours instead |
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Post by hansschmucker on May 14, 2007 18:25:27 GMT 1
d**n... OK, that's something that happens from time to time... I hope you're not mad |
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Post by hansschmucker on May 14, 2007 18:59:21 GMT 1
Just tried to hack a custom authentication into mediawiki but I lose track of where the messages end up... do you have any experience customizing it?
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Post by hansschmucker on May 14, 2007 19:30:53 GMT 1
BTW, that's what the title bar would look like with the new tabs:  |
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Post by tgwaste on May 14, 2007 19:36:28 GMT 1
you need a 'Resources' tab.. which contains important links to emulation based stuff.. free (homebrew) roms, etc.. maybe a download/upload area where people can post various tools and such.
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Post by hansschmucker on May 14, 2007 19:39:51 GMT 1
Not a bad idea... but I'd prefer to maintain it on the wiki, instead of including it on the page...
Question is, will users look for that under Wiki or do we really need a separate button that links to that Wiki page?
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Post by tgwaste on May 14, 2007 19:47:36 GMT 1
i would not look for an active download/upload area under a wiki. IMHO Wikis are one of the worst things that the internet has ever produced. They never truly work as desired especially the search functions. Ill throw together my idea of a resource page in the next week and you can look at it to see where my thinking is going.. |
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Post by Tinnus on May 14, 2007 19:47:38 GMT 1
I really think you should wait for LJX before creating a huge documentation on the "old" version... except for things that (obviously) will remain the same, like "What are roms" and stuff. Same with the bug tracker.
I also think that if this thing's gonna be created, it has to be done right. I really don't like when I go to a wiki to seek help on something and there are just 5 pages there...
I'm not discouraging you from doing these things... just asking to consider if it's worth it at this time.
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Post by hansschmucker on May 14, 2007 19:57:05 GMT 1
tgwaste: I wouldn't say that about Wikis... IMHO they are really helpful when a lot of people are involved. We use them for documentation in University and it really works well if you have someone sorting and cleaning the pages every once in a while. As for searches: There's always Google! But, you're right, we probably need a seperate link on the page Tinnus: Since LJP is still under active development by Metaview I don't think it's a bad idea to collect the bugs in one place. As for LJX... once there's a public beta, I'll simply add another project to the bugtracker and that's pretty much it. Same with the wiki: Once LJX is out we simply move the mainpage to LJP_old or something like that... Then we can reuse any stuff that's already there.
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Sorry...
